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> Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet? I dropped off the internet while I was in the military and deployed, the answer is yes. That said,

by _ktx2 4y ago

> Will people forget about me if I am not on the internet? I dropped off the internet while I was in the military and deployed, the answer is yes. That said, I'd like to turn this on its head. It's normal for friends to go out of touch, reconnect in somewhat of a cycle. Some people stay constantly in touch, but not everyone. That isn't normal, and to be quite honest, would be super stressful for me. It's like juggling a dozen hot plates with pancakes being formed on them. You're eventually going to burn one or let it all burn spectacularly. My conclusion was that losing touch with a lot of my high school and college friends wasn't historically abnormal - staying in touch with them forever was. It's also normal to have different depths of friendships. Not everyone needs to hear your deepest inner thoughts. This kind of summarizes what I think is wrong with social media. Internet culture and it's subcultures are weird. That's to say, though, that any deeply entrenched culture is kinda weird. They have their own language, memes, attitudes, etc formed and influenced by the adjacency of it's members. That's to say, I look at sports people the way this person looks at the weird assortment they followed to a ketamine party. If you're going to a giant parking lot, ripping your shirt off, screaming, getting black out drunk, screaming at players, devoting precious memory to niche sports and player statistics - are you not mechanically the same as these folks? The difference being that your community is physical.

noobermin 4y ago
>The difference being that your community is physical. And more socially acceptable.
- kodah 4y ago
  The point of my text was to flip what it is to be "socially acceptable" in the modern era on its head. Grotesque manliness at football events to many people is so off-putting they won't be near those events or people. Same can be said for these new internet subcultures. Point is, I think if we zoom out this is just normal human behavior. To be something to talk about, to perceive yourself as someone, to have a common language, to have quirks and oddities. It's more about what you fit in with that describes what you find "weird". This author doesn't fit into this culture, but probably fits in to another culture that others on this post would find "weird".
  - noobermin 4y ago
    In response to your first paragraph, you say that, but so-called "grotesque manliness" is not only socially acceptable, it was literally the gender norm for centuries in the west. May be today or in some corners, such behavior is off-putting, but it definitely is far more the norm than nerd culture was until about ten or so years ago. I do however agree with your second paragraph that subcultures generally have their own norms which can be rigid and off-putting and rigidity is generally annoying. That said, in line with my contention, certain subcultures do genuinely correlate with certain social groups who do in fact have power in society and so it is a equivocation to presume that all subcultures can be judged on the same terms.

by _ktx2 4y ago

noobermin 4y ago

>The difference being that your community is physical. And more socially acceptable.

kodah 4y ago
The point of my text was to flip what it is to be "socially acceptable" in the modern era on its head. Grotesque manliness at football events to many people is so off-putting they won't be near those events or people. Same can be said for these new internet subcultures. Point is, I think if we zoom out this is just normal human behavior. To be something to talk about, to perceive yourself as someone, to have a common language, to have quirks and oddities. It's more about what you fit in with that describes what you find "weird". This author doesn't fit into this culture, but probably fits in to another culture that others on this post would find "weird".
- noobermin 4y ago
  In response to your first paragraph, you say that, but so-called "grotesque manliness" is not only socially acceptable, it was literally the gender norm for centuries in the west. May be today or in some corners, such behavior is off-putting, but it definitely is far more the norm than nerd culture was until about ten or so years ago. I do however agree with your second paragraph that subcultures generally have their own norms which can be rigid and off-putting and rigidity is generally annoying. That said, in line with my contention, certain subcultures do genuinely correlate with certain social groups who do in fact have power in society and so it is a equivocation to presume that all subcultures can be judged on the same terms.