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> So let's continue with the filter question not being a dedicated extra step I can't agree with that. I don't see point of a filter question if its not a sepa

by leros 4y ago

> So let's continue with the filter question not being a dedicated extra step I can't agree with that. I don't see point of a filter question if its not a separate step before the full interview. If you're going to bring someone in for a proper interview, go ahead and give them a full interview session. It's weird to put a filter a question into a full day's worth of interviewing. And I can say, having seen hiring practices across tons of companies, filter questions are almost always a separate step where candidates have a tendency to fall out of the hiring pipeline. > Even if this is about the phone screen and not a filter question per se, I'm still not sure I really like the idea of omitting phone screens for more senior positions because you might lose on "better" candidates. Phone screens are fine because they're usually more about culture fit and trying to figure out if the candidate and company are right for each other. Experienced candidates that get asked basic technical questions on a phone screen have a tendency to report a negative experience and not have a desire to move forward with the company.

anyfoo 4y ago
> It's weird to put a filter a question into a full day's worth of interviewing. Some candidates won't get the full day, to prevent wasting a lot of time. It's true that I haven't seen an individual interview being cut ultra-short after a failed filter question, but it definitely informs whether the next interviews will happen. > Experienced candidates that get asked basic technical questions on a phone screen have a tendency to report a negative experience and not have a desire to move forward with the company. Sorry, but, thanks for coming, and good luck in your future endeavors. As an experienced candidate, if I could not stomach that, politely and with a strong desire to move on swiftly on the other side as well, I am asked a simple technical question for the apparent reason that the interviewer cannot divine if I am actually able to program (unlike so many examples in this comment section alone), I'm not sure why I would really be considered a "grade-A" candidate.
soueuls 4y ago
I have definitely quit hiring process where I have been asked about FizzBuzz. It’s outdated, useless, shows a lack of imagination. I don’t want to work with people asking me whether I can perform a loop with a basic conditions. And it’s a hill I am willing to die on. I am financially independent, mostly here for the intellectual challenge. And I have never met anyone asking me about FizzBuzz having then the capacity to entertain me intellectually.
- anyfoo 4y ago
  > To be clear, as I explained in my first post, my filter questions are not FizzBuzz, they are much more domain specific. At least if it's past the phone screen stage and for more than an internship. But they are still identifiable as trivial filter question for any serious applicant. I don't force you to work anywhere, though.
  - soueuls 4y ago
    Nobody is forcing anyone. And filter questions are ok, but FizzBuzz is definitely insulting. It would be like me trying to hire someone to improve my SEO, someone sent me his CV with 8+ years of experience, who talk about long tail keywords, cannibalization issues, internal linking and I ask : "Do you know what is the Google Console?" I think both parties can have red flags

by leros 4y ago

anyfoo 4y ago

> It's weird to put a filter a question into a full day's worth of interviewing. Some candidates won't get the full day, to prevent wasting a lot of time. It's true that I haven't seen an individual interview being cut ultra-short after a failed filter question, but it definitely informs whether the next interviews will happen. > Experienced candidates that get asked basic technical questions on a phone screen have a tendency to report a negative experience and not have a desire to move forward with the company. Sorry, but, thanks for coming, and good luck in your future endeavors. As an experienced candidate, if I could not stomach that, politely and with a strong desire to move on swiftly on the other side as well, I am asked a simple technical question for the apparent reason that the interviewer cannot divine if I am actually able to program (unlike so many examples in this comment section alone), I'm not sure why I would really be considered a "grade-A" candidate.

soueuls 4y ago

I have definitely quit hiring process where I have been asked about FizzBuzz. It’s outdated, useless, shows a lack of imagination. I don’t want to work with people asking me whether I can perform a loop with a basic conditions. And it’s a hill I am willing to die on. I am financially independent, mostly here for the intellectual challenge. And I have never met anyone asking me about FizzBuzz having then the capacity to entertain me intellectually.

anyfoo 4y ago
> To be clear, as I explained in my first post, my filter questions are not FizzBuzz, they are much more domain specific. At least if it's past the phone screen stage and for more than an internship. But they are still identifiable as trivial filter question for any serious applicant. I don't force you to work anywhere, though.
- soueuls 4y ago
  Nobody is forcing anyone. And filter questions are ok, but FizzBuzz is definitely insulting. It would be like me trying to hire someone to improve my SEO, someone sent me his CV with 8+ years of experience, who talk about long tail keywords, cannibalization issues, internal linking and I ask : "Do you know what is the Google Console?" I think both parties can have red flags