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I have a young child. For me, this news over a year ago has significantly curbed sharing of baby pictures/videos through iMessage/WhatsApp etc. I don’t even re

by LASR 4y ago

I have a young child. For me, this news over a year ago has significantly curbed sharing of baby pictures/videos through iMessage/WhatsApp etc. I don’t even record as much video of our son since everything is backed up to iCloud and Google Photos. I have an auto-adding album where any picture taken of our son goes directly into a shared album with my parents and my wife’s parents. My wife wanted to record us giving our son a bath because it is cute how he plays with the water. We didn’t do that because of this worry that it might be construed as CSAM. I can’t have my Google account be suspended because I use the same account for most of my freelance work. The whole situation seems to be a huge violation of the principles of privacy. I understand this is intended to protect children from terrible evils. But still, I don’t feel this is the best way to do it.

gonehome 4y ago
The apple one was only hash matches with known ncmec images over a certain threshold. Even then there was a human in the loop iirc. So it wouldn’t have been an issue. Google was doing novel image detection though and mistakes there are more possible and more serious. As evidenced by the recent NYT article about that guy.
autoexec 4y ago
You were smart not to risk it. Even if you can get your hands on a digital camera that lets you record those moments privately you'll have to be careful about what the OS is on the computer where you store/view those images because now or at some point in the future it could also decide to do the same thing. No matter how terrible or illegal something is, even if it's abuse or terrorism our own devices shouldn't be treating us as an adversary, watching everything we do to make sure we don't step out of line, and reporting violations to the police.
killingtime74 4y ago
Because of this I moved my email to my own domain hosted by Proton mail (many providers out there). Can't risk your livelihood on an error on their part or yours. I can just switch my DNS to another provider in minutes if they ban me.
vorpalhex 4y ago
Signal + your own photo backup.
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by LASR 4y ago

gonehome 4y ago

The apple one was only hash matches with known ncmec images over a certain threshold. Even then there was a human in the loop iirc. So it wouldn’t have been an issue. Google was doing novel image detection though and mistakes there are more possible and more serious. As evidenced by the recent NYT article about that guy.

autoexec 4y ago

You were smart not to risk it. Even if you can get your hands on a digital camera that lets you record those moments privately you'll have to be careful about what the OS is on the computer where you store/view those images because now or at some point in the future it could also decide to do the same thing. No matter how terrible or illegal something is, even if it's abuse or terrorism our own devices shouldn't be treating us as an adversary, watching everything we do to make sure we don't step out of line, and reporting violations to the police.

killingtime74 4y ago

Because of this I moved my email to my own domain hosted by Proton mail (many providers out there). Can't risk your livelihood on an error on their part or yours. I can just switch my DNS to another provider in minutes if they ban me.

vorpalhex 4y ago

Signal + your own photo backup.

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