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The public also doesn't mind using postal services despite terrible CSAM and terrorist content being circulated throughout them undetected, but rightfully resis

The public also doesn't mind using postal services despite terrible CSAM and terrorist content being circulated throughout them undetected, but rightfully resist when other technology might try detect it.

oneplane 4y ago
You know that it's a distinction WITH a big difference right? Physical items take up physical space, have to physically be in transit and can be physically on a person on at a persons property. Hiding one phone is much easier than hiding many boxes of pictures of children being raped or abused in various different ways. The phone can also contain much more material than an entire room or house could contain. Personally I don't care about the argument that privacy is oh-so-special, you can have that all day long, as long as you also fight equally for the prevention and containment of CSAM, which most self-proclaimed privacy advocates tend to not do.
- randomdata 4y ago
  What's the difference? The only significance of the pictures is that serves to prove that you were party to the rape/abuse, either directly or indirectly (i.e. gave reason for someone else to produce the content). The quantity of content makes little difference. The child wasn't doubly abused by someone behind the camera being shutter happy. Stashing away one physical photo or one phone with hundreds of pictures of the act doesn't really change anything.
  - oneplane 4y ago
    The effort and timelines are different. Deleing a few pictures or wiping a phone is a lot easier and faster than trying to hide many Kg of material taking up many m^3 of space. Sharing something physical is also harder, you have to copy/reproduce it, and then distribute it, which also means at many points in time multiple copies are close/near to the owner. Getting caught via 1000 leads pointing to the owner is a lot more likely than 1 lead (in the shape of a phone).

oneplane 4y ago

You know that it's a distinction WITH a big difference right? Physical items take up physical space, have to physically be in transit and can be physically on a person on at a persons property. Hiding one phone is much easier than hiding many boxes of pictures of children being raped or abused in various different ways. The phone can also contain much more material than an entire room or house could contain. Personally I don't care about the argument that privacy is oh-so-special, you can have that all day long, as long as you also fight equally for the prevention and containment of CSAM, which most self-proclaimed privacy advocates tend to not do.

randomdata 4y ago
What's the difference? The only significance of the pictures is that serves to prove that you were party to the rape/abuse, either directly or indirectly (i.e. gave reason for someone else to produce the content). The quantity of content makes little difference. The child wasn't doubly abused by someone behind the camera being shutter happy. Stashing away one physical photo or one phone with hundreds of pictures of the act doesn't really change anything.
- oneplane 4y ago
  The effort and timelines are different. Deleing a few pictures or wiping a phone is a lot easier and faster than trying to hide many Kg of material taking up many m^3 of space. Sharing something physical is also harder, you have to copy/reproduce it, and then distribute it, which also means at many points in time multiple copies are close/near to the owner. Getting caught via 1000 leads pointing to the owner is a lot more likely than 1 lead (in the shape of a phone).