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Depression might not even really be about love. Seems like aggression plays a big role in it too.

by philosopher1234 4y ago

moloch-hai 4y ago
No.
- philosopher1234 4y ago
  Lol? this is a widely understood perspective.
  - benatkin 4y ago
    I think maybe 5% of the time it isn't about love but the other 95% it is. A lot of people really are missing love. The Netflix Series 13 Reasons Why seems pretty unrealistic except maybe it represents some unusual cases. In that series there are clearly people who cared about her but she was missing the caring of certain people (and I don't fault people for feeling bad because one particular person or a few doesn't like them). A lot of people don't have much loving attention at all though.
  - moloch-hai 4y ago
    There is literally nothing aggressive about depression.
    - munificent 4y ago
      Then why are people suffering depression packed full of stress response hormones? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc
      - moloch-hai 4y ago
        Are you familiar with the expression "fight or flight"? They feel a need to flee, but there is nowhere to go.
savryn 4y ago
yeah the old analysis thing about aggression turned outwards --> anger aggression turned inwards --> depression i wish some of these super smart people weren't so afraid of the harmless 'woo' that costs next to nothing, like read some old 70s book on primal scream into a pillow or try a radical keto meat diet or weird mental re-framings from people who are total quacks The internet is full of 60 plus years of this stuff since the 60s, books and lectures and diy reprogramming you can find for free. random 'outdated' books where 80 percent is fluff i've stumbled on one page of a random client story that just cut through time and space to reach me at that moment. I can't even remember the book title but I still remember the page layout, reading a paragraph at 2am and started bawling after feeling numb all year. I've pieced together little bits of insight this way and each feel like growth and knowing some secret unconscious part of myself better. You never know what will crack the ice and get thru to you. like who cares about evidence when that has gotten you nowhere in matters of the mind? Hell, you can build a life going from placebo insight to insight if that's what it takes to keep on, why would that even be different than the lives on 'normal' people chasing hollow consumer goods? it's still a life of trying things out to better know yourself and your world, which is plenty meaningful
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  I’ve found people like Dr Paul Jenkins on YouTube hello with “reframing” significantly.

Depression might not even really be about love. Seems like aggression plays a big role in it too.

moloch-hai 4y ago

No.

philosopher1234 4y ago
Lol? this is a widely understood perspective.
- benatkin 4y ago
  I think maybe 5% of the time it isn't about love but the other 95% it is. A lot of people really are missing love. The Netflix Series 13 Reasons Why seems pretty unrealistic except maybe it represents some unusual cases. In that series there are clearly people who cared about her but she was missing the caring of certain people (and I don't fault people for feeling bad because one particular person or a few doesn't like them). A lot of people don't have much loving attention at all though.
- moloch-hai 4y ago
  There is literally nothing aggressive about depression.
  - munificent 4y ago
    Then why are people suffering depression packed full of stress response hormones? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc
    - moloch-hai 4y ago
      Are you familiar with the expression "fight or flight"? They feel a need to flee, but there is nowhere to go.

savryn 4y ago

yeah the old analysis thing about aggression turned outwards --> anger aggression turned inwards --> depression i wish some of these super smart people weren't so afraid of the harmless 'woo' that costs next to nothing, like read some old 70s book on primal scream into a pillow or try a radical keto meat diet or weird mental re-framings from people who are total quacks The internet is full of 60 plus years of this stuff since the 60s, books and lectures and diy reprogramming you can find for free. random 'outdated' books where 80 percent is fluff i've stumbled on one page of a random client story that just cut through time and space to reach me at that moment. I can't even remember the book title but I still remember the page layout, reading a paragraph at 2am and started bawling after feeling numb all year. I've pieced together little bits of insight this way and each feel like growth and knowing some secret unconscious part of myself better. You never know what will crack the ice and get thru to you. like who cares about evidence when that has gotten you nowhere in matters of the mind? Hell, you can build a life going from placebo insight to insight if that's what it takes to keep on, why would that even be different than the lives on 'normal' people chasing hollow consumer goods? it's still a life of trying things out to better know yourself and your world, which is plenty meaningful

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
I’ve found people like Dr Paul Jenkins on YouTube hello with “reframing” significantly.