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Because it's a problem without a viable solution. We can, and do, mandate racist employers to not discriminate in hiring. We can, and do, mandate ableist busi

by caeril 4y ago

Because it's a problem without a viable solution. We can, and do, mandate racist employers to not discriminate in hiring. We can, and do, mandate ableist businesses to accommodate the disabled. We can, and do, mandate sexist banks and lenders to do business with women. But we can not, obviously, mandate women to have sex with physically undesirable men. This is not a matter of people denying reality so much as it's people pretending to deny reality because openly acknowledging it presents society with an intractable problem that requires reversing the clock on feminism's progress and denying rights to half the population to "solve". Everyone knows that looks are extremely important to women. And those that don't know it intuitively have a plethora of stated versus revealed preference studies to reference. We deny it not because we don't know it. We deny it because acknowledging unsolvable problems is extremely uncomfortable.

DrNosferatu 4y ago
No one is claiming that women should be “mandated” to have sex with whoever! :D (WTF?!) See? The (current?) pervasiveness of black & white thinking is central to all this. - What about just starting by throughly acknowledging the issue? That would be a very nice upgrade to the debate. Actually two very lonely female voices did - and that’s sooo sexy. I would love to date them. Anyone has their WhatsApp number? https://youtu.be/KM4Xe6Dlp0Y https://youtu.be/KM4Xe6Dlp0Y https://youtu.be/LFKzhaUDQmQ https://youtu.be/LFKzhaUDQmQ
- caeril 4y ago
  You may be missing my point. I thoroughly agree with so-called "blackpill" analysis of the problem. And I believe that most people do too, if you got them drunk and honest enough. The issue is that civilization "solved" the problem by codifying lifelong monogamy into law, repressing the rights of women, treating them as chattel, and exacting draconian punishments for exercising their hypergamy. There is precisely ZERO chance we will ever go back to that. So what other solution is there? The reality is that there is no solution. Nor can we even pretend that there is a solution. At least with other difficult problems like climate change or racial achievement gaps, we can play little games like carbon credits and school funding reallocation that won't fix the problem but we can at least pretend it might. What could we possibly even pretend to do about this problem? Government-funded bimax surgery for all? Mandatory CRISPR gene modifications of gametes to ensure sexually dimorphic physical traits for all? I don't think so. Even acknowledging the problem immediately suggests "historical" solutions, all of which are complete anathema to our modern society. So, we're stuck. Humans are very good at denying the existence of a problem if there's no viable solution. And that's what we're doing now. So we gaslight legitimate incels into believing they just need to work on their hygiene and personality and hope for the best. This

by caeril 4y ago

DrNosferatu 4y ago

No one is claiming that women should be “mandated” to have sex with whoever! :D (WTF?!) See? The (current?) pervasiveness of black & white thinking is central to all this. - What about just starting by throughly acknowledging the issue? That would be a very nice upgrade to the debate. Actually two very lonely female voices did - and that’s sooo sexy. I would love to date them. Anyone has their WhatsApp number? https://youtu.be/KM4Xe6Dlp0Y https://youtu.be/KM4Xe6Dlp0Y https://youtu.be/LFKzhaUDQmQ https://youtu.be/LFKzhaUDQmQ

caeril 4y ago
You may be missing my point. I thoroughly agree with so-called "blackpill" analysis of the problem. And I believe that most people do too, if you got them drunk and honest enough. The issue is that civilization "solved" the problem by codifying lifelong monogamy into law, repressing the rights of women, treating them as chattel, and exacting draconian punishments for exercising their hypergamy. There is precisely ZERO chance we will ever go back to that. So what other solution is there? The reality is that there is no solution. Nor can we even pretend that there is a solution. At least with other difficult problems like climate change or racial achievement gaps, we can play little games like carbon credits and school funding reallocation that won't fix the problem but we can at least pretend it might. What could we possibly even pretend to do about this problem? Government-funded bimax surgery for all? Mandatory CRISPR gene modifications of gametes to ensure sexually dimorphic physical traits for all? I don't think so. Even acknowledging the problem immediately suggests "historical" solutions, all of which are complete anathema to our modern society. So, we're stuck. Humans are very good at denying the existence of a problem if there's no viable solution. And that's what we're doing now. So we gaslight legitimate incels into believing they just need to work on their hygiene and personality and hope for the best. This