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outside of appstore ads and ios ads for their services, where is apple doing advertising?

by katbyte 4y ago

falcolas 4y ago
Throughout their News app for one.
- sn0wf1re 4y ago
  And "news" in Stocks
  - nomel 4y ago
    Are these ads? If I see a large derivative, I can usually glance down at the relevant news to see why. More often than not, it says "No Recent Stories", which shouldn't be the case for an ad. The news articles in the main view are just top business stories from Apple News. I don't see anything ad like at all, actually.
- thewebcount 4y ago
  Yeah, this has been so depressing to see. I disliked that there were ads when I signed up, but it was part of a bundle with other things (arcade, music, tv, fitness, etc.), so I gave it a try. But they've been increasing in frequency and they've been added to places they didn't exist before (like when you swipe to see the next article). It's still nowhere near as bad as reading a web page without an ad blocker, but it's definitely past my threshold of pain, and so I'm just using it less. I want the other things in the bundle, so they'll count me as a subscriber, but I'm using it less each day. What's particularly odd is that some articles have no ads at all. Some have the same ad repeated literally 3-5 times in a short 1,000 word article. And the ads are all trash. They seem like those awful chum-boxes you see on web sites. Who in their right mind thought this would be appealing to the typical Apple user? I mean, regardless, I have never intentionally clicked on any ad on the web in 30 years, and I'm not going to start now. It's sad because it's exposed me to regional newspapers from around the world. I live in California and see articles from newspapers in Idaho, Utah, Connecticut, upstate New York, Dallas, Miami, Chicago, etc. and even from other (mostly English-speaking) countries like Canada, England, Ireland, Isreal, and Australia. They even include some (English-language) stuff from China. I don't normally see news sources that diverse on the web because it takes more effort. But the ads just make it not worth it to continue using.
  - ziml77 4y ago
    Even with the amount of leverage they have to control third parties, media companies are too big for them to control. I’d be willing to bet they had little choice but to let the various publications run ads as they please. Those companies don’t need to be available on Apple News+ to survive. But Apple News+ has no chance without them.
  - brewdad 4y ago
    News+ silently dropped one of my preferred news sources last week. No updated articles for a week now and it's no longer listed on the news sources page on the web site. Oh well, I'm still in a free 6 month trial but no longer intend to become a paid subscriber next year.
    - SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
      Which news source?
- rekoil 4y ago
  Lol, the News app is available in like two countries.
- HL33tibCe7 4y ago
  Apple News is an unusual miss by Apple imo. It’s just not “Apple”, like everything else they do is.
nullwarp 4y ago
In the settings app they advertise iCloud if you aren't using it
- riversflow 4y ago
  > ios ads for their services. I hate ads, but for most people paying some bucks a month to make sure their 2nd brain of photos/notes/passwords/texts/etc is totally (and now privately) backed up is a worthwhile insurance policy. I think the argument that advertising iCloud plan upgrades in settings, where you’ll be pointed to if you run out of backup storage, is very benign as far as ads go. Although I do think that they should have a method to dismiss it(I don’t see this so I’m projecting that they don’t).
  - HeckFeck 4y ago
    It is much, much less obnoxious than the constant nagging to use Edge and OneDrive we see in Windows. Windows even sent a notification questioning my choice to disable location tracking.
    - andrepd 4y ago
      I don't have ads on my phone or my desktop. Why should I settle for a shittier experience A? The fact that there is an even shittier experience B is no argument.
      - HeckFeck 4y ago
        The only 'ads' I've seen from Apple have been the aforementioned iCloud invitation in Settings, there is also a prompt to sign up for iCloud when first setting up the system. That's an element of user choice - 'use our service, or don't, we won't ask twice'. Unlike MS - you have to link everything with an ID when first setting up W11, no choice unless you go to extreme workarounds. Constant nagging and manipulation thereafter. With that said, what platform are you using that has no ads at all? Presumably Linux on the desktop, which I can almost use. But unfortunately I can't use it on mobile, I have too many use cases in the personal and business world that require a 'normie' grade phone.

outside of appstore ads and ios ads for their services, where is apple doing advertising?

falcolas 4y ago

Throughout their News app for one.

sn0wf1re 4y ago
And "news" in Stocks
- nomel 4y ago
  Are these ads? If I see a large derivative, I can usually glance down at the relevant news to see why. More often than not, it says "No Recent Stories", which shouldn't be the case for an ad. The news articles in the main view are just top business stories from Apple News. I don't see anything ad like at all, actually.
thewebcount 4y ago
Yeah, this has been so depressing to see. I disliked that there were ads when I signed up, but it was part of a bundle with other things (arcade, music, tv, fitness, etc.), so I gave it a try. But they've been increasing in frequency and they've been added to places they didn't exist before (like when you swipe to see the next article). It's still nowhere near as bad as reading a web page without an ad blocker, but it's definitely past my threshold of pain, and so I'm just using it less. I want the other things in the bundle, so they'll count me as a subscriber, but I'm using it less each day. What's particularly odd is that some articles have no ads at all. Some have the same ad repeated literally 3-5 times in a short 1,000 word article. And the ads are all trash. They seem like those awful chum-boxes you see on web sites. Who in their right mind thought this would be appealing to the typical Apple user? I mean, regardless, I have never intentionally clicked on any ad on the web in 30 years, and I'm not going to start now. It's sad because it's exposed me to regional newspapers from around the world. I live in California and see articles from newspapers in Idaho, Utah, Connecticut, upstate New York, Dallas, Miami, Chicago, etc. and even from other (mostly English-speaking) countries like Canada, England, Ireland, Isreal, and Australia. They even include some (English-language) stuff from China. I don't normally see news sources that diverse on the web because it takes more effort. But the ads just make it not worth it to continue using.
- ziml77 4y ago
  Even with the amount of leverage they have to control third parties, media companies are too big for them to control. I’d be willing to bet they had little choice but to let the various publications run ads as they please. Those companies don’t need to be available on Apple News+ to survive. But Apple News+ has no chance without them.
- brewdad 4y ago
  News+ silently dropped one of my preferred news sources last week. No updated articles for a week now and it's no longer listed on the news sources page on the web site. Oh well, I'm still in a free 6 month trial but no longer intend to become a paid subscriber next year.
  - SpelingBeeChamp 4y ago
    Which news source?
rekoil 4y ago
Lol, the News app is available in like two countries.
HL33tibCe7 4y ago
Apple News is an unusual miss by Apple imo. It’s just not “Apple”, like everything else they do is.

nullwarp 4y ago

In the settings app they advertise iCloud if you aren't using it

riversflow 4y ago
> ios ads for their services. I hate ads, but for most people paying some bucks a month to make sure their 2nd brain of photos/notes/passwords/texts/etc is totally (and now privately) backed up is a worthwhile insurance policy. I think the argument that advertising iCloud plan upgrades in settings, where you’ll be pointed to if you run out of backup storage, is very benign as far as ads go. Although I do think that they should have a method to dismiss it(I don’t see this so I’m projecting that they don’t).
- HeckFeck 4y ago
  It is much, much less obnoxious than the constant nagging to use Edge and OneDrive we see in Windows. Windows even sent a notification questioning my choice to disable location tracking.
  - andrepd 4y ago
    I don't have ads on my phone or my desktop. Why should I settle for a shittier experience A? The fact that there is an even shittier experience B is no argument.
    - HeckFeck 4y ago
      The only 'ads' I've seen from Apple have been the aforementioned iCloud invitation in Settings, there is also a prompt to sign up for iCloud when first setting up the system. That's an element of user choice - 'use our service, or don't, we won't ask twice'. Unlike MS - you have to link everything with an ID when first setting up W11, no choice unless you go to extreme workarounds. Constant nagging and manipulation thereafter. With that said, what platform are you using that has no ads at all? Presumably Linux on the desktop, which I can almost use. But unfortunately I can't use it on mobile, I have too many use cases in the personal and business world that require a 'normie' grade phone.