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So I guess Mozilla isn't working on unforking tor browser?

by agilob 4y ago

chungy 4y ago
It's pretty much already happened. Tor Browser is little more than stock Firefox with some of the settings changed.
- HackerNCoder 4y ago
- webmobdev 4y ago
  There's also a bug report (not fixed for a long time - https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/40788 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-... ) that the Tor Browser also phones some Mozilla / Firefox every time it starts and there is no option to disable it.
Gigachad 4y ago
They are probably not satisfied that Tor doesn’t have a deplatforming mechanism.
- goatcode 4y ago
  I'm glad this knowledge and discussion is still alive and well. F them for this.
- orthecreedence 4y ago
  Can you elaborate on this? I think I'm missing some context.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    Based on their blog post where they want more deplatforming capabilities https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat... There was also a comment from one of the Tor foundation members about how they wish they were able to deplatform kiwi farms from tor but it’s technically not possible.
    - orthecreedence 4y ago
      Ah thanks. Never saw this. I read that post as almost "deplatforming doesn't work" (a statement I tend to agree with) but I guess the word "more" implies they support deplatforming AS WELL AS other things. Interesting. I would kind of hope Mozilla sees themselves as neutral carriers. Maybe that's not the case. Still better than Google though. > they wish they were able to deplatform kiwi farms from tor but it’s technically not possible. Well, then they built it correctly! It seems to me people like this want technological solutions to problems rooted in culture and economics. I think the best solution is don't stop people from saying bad things, instead teach others to know when not to listen to the bad things. I guess it's a new phase of humanity though...Dunbar's number might not be changing, but who's in a person's circle is now wildly distributed. I'm not sure of a great solution to people believing birds aren't real or that Qanon isn't a pimply teenager on 4chan, but banning morons from Twitter isn't a real solution. Interesting times.
    - bobsmooth 4y ago
      On a network that hosts CSAM and drug markets, the worst thing is a gossip forum.

So I guess Mozilla isn't working on unforking tor browser?

by agilob 4y ago

So I guess Mozilla isn't working on unforking tor browser?

chungy 4y ago

It's pretty much already happened. Tor Browser is little more than stock Firefox with some of the settings changed.

HackerNCoder 4y ago
webmobdev 4y ago
There's also a bug report (not fixed for a long time - https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-/issues/40788 https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser/-... ) that the Tor Browser also phones some Mozilla / Firefox every time it starts and there is no option to disable it.

Gigachad 4y ago

They are probably not satisfied that Tor doesn’t have a deplatforming mechanism.

goatcode 4y ago
I'm glad this knowledge and discussion is still alive and well. F them for this.
orthecreedence 4y ago
Can you elaborate on this? I think I'm missing some context.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Based on their blog post where they want more deplatforming capabilities https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplatforming/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/we-need-more-than-deplat... There was also a comment from one of the Tor foundation members about how they wish they were able to deplatform kiwi farms from tor but it’s technically not possible.
  - orthecreedence 4y ago
    Ah thanks. Never saw this. I read that post as almost "deplatforming doesn't work" (a statement I tend to agree with) but I guess the word "more" implies they support deplatforming AS WELL AS other things. Interesting. I would kind of hope Mozilla sees themselves as neutral carriers. Maybe that's not the case. Still better than Google though. > they wish they were able to deplatform kiwi farms from tor but it’s technically not possible. Well, then they built it correctly! It seems to me people like this want technological solutions to problems rooted in culture and economics. I think the best solution is don't stop people from saying bad things, instead teach others to know when not to listen to the bad things. I guess it's a new phase of humanity though...Dunbar's number might not be changing, but who's in a person's circle is now wildly distributed. I'm not sure of a great solution to people believing birds aren't real or that Qanon isn't a pimply teenager on 4chan, but banning morons from Twitter isn't a real solution. Interesting times.
  - bobsmooth 4y ago
    On a network that hosts CSAM and drug markets, the worst thing is a gossip forum.