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Sorry mate but you have no idea how anything works. Literally every photo hosting service on the internet will scan your photos against an abuse list and work w

Sorry mate but you have no idea how anything works. Literally every photo hosting service on the internet will scan your photos against an abuse list and work with LE - otherwise they get to become the “cp-friendly” hoster. When apple released client-side scanning (which only ever applies to photos uploaded to iCloud Photos) the only thing that changed was now the scanning takes place on your device where you have transparency and ability to see what hashes are checked. The folks paying attention knew what this was - Apple redesigning a workflow to make LE cool with e2e encrypted photos. You read some false outrage articles and are now somehow still upset at a company doing work that is currently in your best interest. Baffling.

therealmarv 4y ago
I'm baffled how people can be so okay with letting their whole device being scanned always. I don't want it to be scanned no matter what the intention is, it's not the phone or Apple's business. Device ownership and to decide for my own what the device is doing with MY data is my liberty. If you want your device to scan your data always is maybe cool with you. But not cool with me. I've read all the technical documentation too. However who says that the mechanism is implemented like intended forever? Maybe Apple or (local) law will change and voila: Your device scan report is reported to Apple and authorities because it is anyway already in place on your device.
- infotogivenm 4y ago
  It’s very true - if we assume words are meaningless we can then assume anything.
Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago
>Sorry mate but you have no idea how anything works. >The folks paying attention knew what this was - Apple redesigning a workflow to make LE cool with e2e encrypted photos. They have just canceled this spyware wholesale,[0] ivalidating your entire point. Interesting how Apple fans can come up with a thousand ways to justify being spied on and then call anyone who points it out cluless. [0]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33898153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33898153
- infotogivenm 4y ago
  You are spied on just as much with or without said client side scanning. The features were almost certainly related to each other given their timeline, even if one did not end up shipping.

therealmarv 4y ago

I'm baffled how people can be so okay with letting their whole device being scanned always. I don't want it to be scanned no matter what the intention is, it's not the phone or Apple's business. Device ownership and to decide for my own what the device is doing with MY data is my liberty. If you want your device to scan your data always is maybe cool with you. But not cool with me. I've read all the technical documentation too. However who says that the mechanism is implemented like intended forever? Maybe Apple or (local) law will change and voila: Your device scan report is reported to Apple and authorities because it is anyway already in place on your device.

infotogivenm 4y ago
It’s very true - if we assume words are meaningless we can then assume anything.

Vt71fcAqt7 4y ago

>Sorry mate but you have no idea how anything works. >The folks paying attention knew what this was - Apple redesigning a workflow to make LE cool with e2e encrypted photos. They have just canceled this spyware wholesale,[0] ivalidating your entire point. Interesting how Apple fans can come up with a thousand ways to justify being spied on and then call anyone who points it out cluless. [0]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33898153 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33898153

infotogivenm 4y ago
You are spied on just as much with or without said client side scanning. The features were almost certainly related to each other given their timeline, even if one did not end up shipping.