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Like many mental illnesses, depression interferes with your perceptions. It's not that that love "wasn't enough", it's that a person deep in depression can't ev
by munificent 4y ago
Like many mental illnesses, depression interferes with your perceptions. It's not that that love "wasn't enough", it's that a person deep in depression can't even accurately see or feel that love.
- swader999 4y agoYeah and it is especially hard for high achievers to ask for help or even consider that they should ask for help. I think its completely foreign to them.
- khazhoux 4y agoCitation needed Sorry, not trying to be a jerk, but unless there is actual comparative evidence, I don't think one can just assert that high achievers struggle in getting help any more than others.
- tutmeister 4y agoIt should be common knowledge by now, as the problem has been documented for decades and discussed here many times.[1][2][3][4] As far as an actual citation: "Studies from Kjølseth et al. (2009), and our own findings (Szücs et al., 2020), suggest that older adults who die by suicide or have late-onset (mostly high-medical lethality) suicide attempts are often high-functioning throughout most of their life, and characterized as controlling, rigid, high-achievers, also high on orderliness (a conscientiousness subcomponent)."[5] [1]https://www.nytimes.com/1996/05/01/us/higher-suicide-risk-for-perfectionists.html https://www.nytimes.com/1996/05/01/us/higher-suicide-risk-fo... [2]https://www.deseret.com/1988/9/13/18777827/30-percent-of-teens-who-are-high-achievers-have-thought-about-suicide-poll-says https://www.deseret.com/1988/9/13/18777827/30-percent-of-tee... [3]https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/scholarly-messenger/2016/September/rcr-asking-for-help.php https://www.depts.ttu.edu/research/scholarly-messenger/2016/... [4]https://everymindatwork.com/high-achievers-and-mental-health/ https://everymindatwork.com/high-achievers-and-mental-health... [5]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7655527/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7655527/
- swader999 4y agoThis fits what I've seen unfortunately. Thanks for posting all those links.
- philosopher1234 4y agoDepression might not even really be about love. Seems like aggression plays a big role in it too.
- moloch-hai 4y agoNo.
- philosopher1234 4y agoLol? this is a widely understood perspective.
- benatkin 4y agoI think maybe 5% of the time it isn't about love but the other 95% it is. A lot of people really are missing love. The Netflix Series 13 Reasons Why seems pretty unrealistic except maybe it represents some unusual cases. In that series there are clearly people who cared about her but she was missing the caring of certain people (and I don't fault people for feeling bad because one particular person or a few doesn't like them). A lot of people don't have much loving attention at all though.
- moloch-hai 4y agoThere is literally nothing aggressive about depression.
- munificent 4y agoThen why are people suffering depression packed full of stress response hormones? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOAgplgTxfc
- moloch-hai 4y agoAre you familiar with the expression "fight or flight"? They feel a need to flee, but there is nowhere to go.