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Except in China and alike

atestu 4y ago
According to WSJ it will include China: > The new encryption system, which will be tested by early users starting Wednesday, will roll out as an option in the U.S. by year’s end, and then worldwide including China in 2023, Mr. Federighi said. https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-plans-new-encryption-system-to-ward-off-hackers-and-protect-icloud-data-11670435635?mod=djemalertNEWS https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-plans-new-encryption-syst...
- busymom0 4y ago
  - sgjohnson 4y ago
    They seem to be abandoning China, they are planning to move some 40% of the total iPhone production to India within the next couple of years, so China might not have all that much leverage.
    - adam_arthur 4y ago
      More about consumer base than manufacturing for them. Doesn’t matter where they move production. Same reason they edit movies to appease chinese audiences
      - brookst 4y ago
        https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/media/hollywood-china-censors-box-office-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/media/hollywood-china-censors...
    - three_seagrass 4y ago
      >They seem to be abandoning China Manufacturing, sure. Consumers? no. Apple traded it's privacy priority for profits back in 2017 when it gave backdoor access to all the iCloud backups - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-ce...
      - sgjohnson 4y ago
        The times have changed in the past 5 years, going all out on China is simply untenable. Leaving China on the other hand is positive PR. Just because Apple couldn't officially sell any iPhones in China doesn't mean that the Chinese public would suddently stop coveting them. I don't think they'd blame Apple if it came to that.
  - criddell 4y ago
    They have to respect the laws of the countries they operate in but they don't necessarily have to do so silently. If you go to set up encrypted backups and find out the feature isn't available or get a message saying something like "Feature cannot be activated in China, Turkey, and Russia", that's better than the feature not being available anywhere.
- insane_dreamer 4y ago
  100% certain Chinese gov will require back-door access
  - Komodai 4y ago
- consumer451 4y ago
  Wow. As far as trust signals go, this seems really bad.

According to WSJ it will include China: > The new encryption system, which will be tested by early users starting Wednesday, will roll out as an option in the U.S. by year’s end, and then worldwide including China in 2023, Mr. Federighi said. https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-plans-new-encryption-system-to-ward-off-hackers-and-protect-icloud-data-11670435635?mod=djemalertNEWS https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-plans-new-encryption-syst...

busymom0 4y ago
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  They seem to be abandoning China, they are planning to move some 40% of the total iPhone production to India within the next couple of years, so China might not have all that much leverage.
  - adam_arthur 4y ago
    More about consumer base than manufacturing for them. Doesn’t matter where they move production. Same reason they edit movies to appease chinese audiences
    - brookst 4y ago
      https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/media/hollywood-china-censors-box-office-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/08/media/hollywood-china-censors...
  - three_seagrass 4y ago
    >They seem to be abandoning China Manufacturing, sure. Consumers? no. Apple traded it's privacy priority for profits back in 2017 when it gave backdoor access to all the iCloud backups - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-ce...
    - sgjohnson 4y ago
      The times have changed in the past 5 years, going all out on China is simply untenable. Leaving China on the other hand is positive PR. Just because Apple couldn't officially sell any iPhones in China doesn't mean that the Chinese public would suddently stop coveting them. I don't think they'd blame Apple if it came to that.
- criddell 4y ago
  They have to respect the laws of the countries they operate in but they don't necessarily have to do so silently. If you go to set up encrypted backups and find out the feature isn't available or get a message saying something like "Feature cannot be activated in China, Turkey, and Russia", that's better than the feature not being available anywhere.
insane_dreamer 4y ago
100% certain Chinese gov will require back-door access
- Komodai 4y ago
consumer451 4y ago
Wow. As far as trust signals go, this seems really bad.