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> surprised that there have been no deaths with that policy The lunacy of today's synthetic sex identity movement aside, what did you imagine, that the Texas s
by prottog 4y ago
> surprised that there have been no deaths with that policy
The lunacy of today's synthetic sex identity movement aside, what did you imagine, that the Texas state government would take these kids out back and shoot them?
- PhasmaFelis 4y agoTrans people denied gender-affirming treatment have monumentally higher suicide rates than their peers. You know that.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoNo one knows that, it’s not falsifiable.
- PhasmaFelis 4y agoIf "Demographic A has higher suicide rates than demographic B" is not falsifiable, then I'm not sure what is.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoWe can’t interview demographic A after they are gone.
- whimsicalism 4y agoPretty surprising a research scientist doesn't know what falsifiability is.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoWell, in general falsifiability and its application to psychology is up for debate because it is generally unethical/impossible to run single variable control experiments on humans :) https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00621/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.0062...
- PhasmaFelis 4y agoIrrelevant in this case. You don't need a double-blind experiment to determine suicide rates, as I already said.
- whimsicalism 4y agoYou don't need to have single variable control to make inferences about differences between population subgroups, only to infer causality. We certainly know that people who identify as transgender are at higher risk of suicide than the broader population.
- mensetmanusman 4y agoExactly, I was poking at the confidence expressed by the OP that inferred causality. Having more nuance and expressing less confidence would be closer to reality.
- PhasmaFelis 4y agoI...what? If you find someone hanging from a noose with no sign of force or a struggle, you don't need an interview to know what happened. What are you even trying to do, here?
- logicchains 4y agoTrans people given gender-affirming treatment also have a monumentally higher suicide rate than their peers: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/acps.13164 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/acps.13164
- kurikuri 4y agoYes, and?
- PhasmaFelis 4y agoHigher than cis people, perhaps, but much lower than if they had not received treatment. Which is the whole point. They're better off with proper treatment than without. Anti-trans activists don't care about kids' welfare, they just want them to conform at any cost. https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00568-1/fulltext https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00568-1/full... https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/fullarticle/2779429 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/fullarticle/277... https://www.hcplive.com/view/suicide-risk-reduces-73-transgender-nonbinary-youths-gender-affirming-care https://www.hcplive.com/view/suicide-risk-reduces-73-transge...
- djbebs 4y agoPretty sure he was surprised no parents had blown one of the CPS people heads clean off in their front lawn when they came around to take their kids.
- whimsicalism 4y agoThat children would commit suicide after being taken from their parents due to their gender politics. Seems pretty plausible to me, transgender folks are already at increased risk of suicide.