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Given that CPS in Texas will attempt to take gender-non-conforming kids who have the support of their parents in being GNC, and that it's in Texas, I am pleasan

• prottog 4y ago
  > surprised that there have been no deaths with that policy The lunacy of today's synthetic sex identity movement aside, what did you imagine, that the Texas state government would take these kids out back and shoot them?
  • PhasmaFelis 4y ago
    Trans people denied gender-affirming treatment have monumentally higher suicide rates than their peers. You know that.
    • mensetmanusman 4y ago
      No one knows that, it’s not falsifiable.
      • PhasmaFelis 4y ago
        If "Demographic A has higher suicide rates than demographic B" is not falsifiable, then I'm not sure what is.
        • mensetmanusman 4y ago
          We can’t interview demographic A after they are gone.
          • whimsicalism 4y ago
            Pretty surprising a research scientist doesn't know what falsifiability is.
            • mensetmanusman 4y ago
              Well, in general falsifiability and its application to psychology is up for debate because it is generally unethical/impossible to run single variable control experiments on humans :) https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00621/full https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.0062...
              • PhasmaFelis 4y ago
                Irrelevant in this case. You don't need a double-blind experiment to determine suicide rates, as I already said.
              • whimsicalism 4y ago
                You don't need to have single variable control to make inferences about differences between population subgroups, only to infer causality. We certainly know that people who identify as transgender are at higher risk of suicide than the broader population.
                • mensetmanusman 4y ago
                  Exactly, I was poking at the confidence expressed by the OP that inferred causality. Having more nuance and expressing less confidence would be closer to reality.
          • PhasmaFelis 4y ago
            I...what? If you find someone hanging from a noose with no sign of force or a struggle, you don't need an interview to know what happened. What are you even trying to do, here?
    • logicchains 4y ago
      Trans people given gender-affirming treatment also have a monumentally higher suicide rate than their peers: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/acps.13164 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/acps.13164
      • kurikuri 4y ago
        Yes, and?
      • PhasmaFelis 4y ago
        Higher than cis people, perhaps, but much lower than if they had not received treatment. Which is the whole point. They're better off with proper treatment than without. Anti-trans activists don't care about kids' welfare, they just want them to conform at any cost. https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00568-1/fulltext https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(21)00568-1/full... https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/fullarticle/2779429 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamasurgery/fullarticle/277... https://www.hcplive.com/view/suicide-risk-reduces-73-transgender-nonbinary-youths-gender-affirming-care https://www.hcplive.com/view/suicide-risk-reduces-73-transge...
  • djbebs 4y ago
    Pretty sure he was surprised no parents had blown one of the CPS people heads clean off in their front lawn when they came around to take their kids.
  • whimsicalism 4y ago
    That children would commit suicide after being taken from their parents due to their gender politics. Seems pretty plausible to me, transgender folks are already at increased risk of suicide.
• whimsicalism 4y ago
  AFAICT this is not taken into account by Texas CPS in any way. Look for articles on it. Yes, Texas legislators passed a virtue signaling law to do so, but it was blocked immediately. there is also a big gap between what laws are passed and the realistic chance of your child being taken away when the system actually confronts families.
  • idontpost 4y ago
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  • PhasmaFelis 4y ago
    This misuse of "groomer" to mean "queer sympathizer" pulls vital attention away from kids who are actually being groomed for abuse. Believe what you want, but don't pretend you care about the kids. Edit: BTW, there are mountains of evidence showing far better life outcomes for trans kids and adults who receive gender-affirming treatment, with or without surgery. If you actually care about the welfare of trans kids, you should educate yourself and stop listening to lying bigots.
• yunic 4y ago
  Gender non-conforming children are being helped by this new Texas law, which prevents parents from transing them at the first hint of GNC behavior.