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> Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. This is why some transgender and nonbinary people have stopped trying to reason with

> Because no body actually cares, no body will use your made up pronouns. This is why some transgender and nonbinary people have stopped trying to reason with their friends and family about their gender identity, and have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns and pay them basic human respect and dignity.

bdowling 4y ago
> clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns In my experience, this “clicker-training” consists of childishly threatening to kill themselves if others don’t give them what they want.
- bitwize 4y ago
  I meant actual clicker training, with the clickers they use to train dogs. It's ridiculous, but so is the lack of respect shown when people stubbornly refuse to use the correct pronouns. There are probably more genderqueer people out there whose families wish them dead, than there are ones who try to manipulate their families by "childishly threatening to kill themselves". I'm reminded of the fragilely masculine fulminating about false rape accusations when so many actual rapists never even get reported.
- fgyj 4y ago
  I think he is referring to this absurdity: https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1598111269953089536 https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1598111269953089536 It's a video of a girl who demands to be referred to as "they" for whatever fashionable reason, and has decided to use a dog-training clicker to remind her family members of this imposition whenever they use "she" as they normally would.
mechanical_bear 4y ago
See also: How to get tossed from family gatherings in three easy steps.
- jacooper 4y ago
  An example of the "My way or the highway" strategy failing miserably.
jacooper 4y ago
Yeah sure, made up or broken pronouns = human dignity. > have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs... I doubt thats going to help with the human dignity of your family either.
ClassyJacket 4y ago
Refusing to play ridiculous pronoun games is not hurting your respect and dignity. It is not anybody else's problem or responsibility to participate in this.
- suslik 4y ago
  There is a difference between the usage of 'xer' by an edgy teenager who identifies as something incomprehensible vs, for instance, using 'she/her' to refer to a biological male that made a conscious, adult decision to transition to female. If one decides to change their first name, they have every right for their friends and family to respect that. If I wanted to be called, for instance, Vladimir instead of Richard, it would be really bloody rich if my mom insisted on the name _she_ thinks fits me better. Same with sex/gender transition (I am not up to date on terminology here, but you know what I mean) - there is nothing more than showing basic respect for choices an individual does for themselves.
  - jacooper 4y ago

bdowling 4y ago

> clicker-training them like dogs to use the appropriate pronouns In my experience, this “clicker-training” consists of childishly threatening to kill themselves if others don’t give them what they want.

bitwize 4y ago
I meant actual clicker training, with the clickers they use to train dogs. It's ridiculous, but so is the lack of respect shown when people stubbornly refuse to use the correct pronouns. There are probably more genderqueer people out there whose families wish them dead, than there are ones who try to manipulate their families by "childishly threatening to kill themselves". I'm reminded of the fragilely masculine fulminating about false rape accusations when so many actual rapists never even get reported.
fgyj 4y ago
I think he is referring to this absurdity: https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1598111269953089536 https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1598111269953089536 It's a video of a girl who demands to be referred to as "they" for whatever fashionable reason, and has decided to use a dog-training clicker to remind her family members of this imposition whenever they use "she" as they normally would.

mechanical_bear 4y ago

See also: How to get tossed from family gatherings in three easy steps.

jacooper 4y ago
An example of the "My way or the highway" strategy failing miserably.

jacooper 4y ago

Yeah sure, made up or broken pronouns = human dignity. > have resorted to clicker-training them like dogs... I doubt thats going to help with the human dignity of your family either.

ClassyJacket 4y ago

Refusing to play ridiculous pronoun games is not hurting your respect and dignity. It is not anybody else's problem or responsibility to participate in this.

suslik 4y ago
There is a difference between the usage of 'xer' by an edgy teenager who identifies as something incomprehensible vs, for instance, using 'she/her' to refer to a biological male that made a conscious, adult decision to transition to female. If one decides to change their first name, they have every right for their friends and family to respect that. If I wanted to be called, for instance, Vladimir instead of Richard, it would be really bloody rich if my mom insisted on the name _she_ thinks fits me better. Same with sex/gender transition (I am not up to date on terminology here, but you know what I mean) - there is nothing more than showing basic respect for choices an individual does for themselves.
- jacooper 4y ago