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> Our Hosting provider, Hetzner, has recently started charging for public IPv4 addresses Well actually, they were charging for IPv4 addresses for a while, but

by KomoD 4y ago

> Our Hosting provider, Hetzner, has recently started charging for public IPv4 addresses Well actually, they were charging for IPv4 addresses for a while, but just changed pricing... to outrageous pricing. The setup fees are actually insane! And yeah IPv6-only is quite a terrible experience, I tried out a few days ago. I suggest just using nat64.net if you want to access IPv4 sites over IPv6. One quite funny thing, I recently asked my ISP if they were ever going to add IPv6, they told me no, there's "not enough demand"... well there's "not enough demand" because there's barely any IPv6 websites, and then websites refuse to add support for IPv6 because... you guessed it, "not enough demand".

Tempest1981 4y ago
Pricing, fyi: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/ipv4-pricing/ https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/ipv4-pricing/ Around €19.00 setup per IP.
- Sesse__ 4y ago
  That's not insane, that's pretty cheap. If you buy IPv4 addresses in bulk (e.g. an entire /18 or so), they're ~$40 a piece these days. When you buy cloud services from AWS or GCE, you're still paying for those IPv4 addresses, it's just baked into the price. Hetzner makes paying for it optional, which makes it so much more visible.
  - counttheforks 4y ago
    It is an insane price for renting an IP address. It's not like you get to keep the IP address when you move elsewhere.
  - KomoD 4y ago
    This isn't buying, this is renting. You are paying that setup fee + the monthly fee. As a comparison, I pay ~$1.60/ip/mo (no setup fee) for my IPs.
- terom 4y ago
  My guess would be that you need to let used IPv4 addresses age out for a while before you can reassign them to a new customer, and they need to reduce churn - and avoid people intentionally burning IPv4 addresses by rotating through new, clean addresses.
counttheforks 4y ago
> The rental costs for the current hosting is quite affordable for me. If that becomes insufficient I will look for partnerships with transit providers who are able to make a little profit from carrying parts of the traffic. Well, that's ominous. Basically a promise that they will sell your data.

by KomoD 4y ago

Tempest1981 4y ago

Pricing, fyi: https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/ipv4-pricing/ https://docs.hetzner.com/general/others/ipv4-pricing/ Around €19.00 setup per IP.

Sesse__ 4y ago
That's not insane, that's pretty cheap. If you buy IPv4 addresses in bulk (e.g. an entire /18 or so), they're ~$40 a piece these days. When you buy cloud services from AWS or GCE, you're still paying for those IPv4 addresses, it's just baked into the price. Hetzner makes paying for it optional, which makes it so much more visible.
- counttheforks 4y ago
  It is an insane price for renting an IP address. It's not like you get to keep the IP address when you move elsewhere.
- KomoD 4y ago
  This isn't buying, this is renting. You are paying that setup fee + the monthly fee. As a comparison, I pay ~$1.60/ip/mo (no setup fee) for my IPs.
terom 4y ago
My guess would be that you need to let used IPv4 addresses age out for a while before you can reassign them to a new customer, and they need to reduce churn - and avoid people intentionally burning IPv4 addresses by rotating through new, clean addresses.

counttheforks 4y ago

> The rental costs for the current hosting is quite affordable for me. If that becomes insufficient I will look for partnerships with transit providers who are able to make a little profit from carrying parts of the traffic. Well, that's ominous. Basically a promise that they will sell your data.