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The dig at the Twitter engineers in there is pretty uncool.

by a_t48 4y ago

politelemon 4y ago
And unnecessary
bell-cot 4y ago
Why? Admitting that I'm a old het guy, "works 80-120 hour/week, for an infamously demanding boss" does not sound like something that younger women would be looking for. (Though with Elan's well-documented history, I'd say that no women should rate him above 0/10 for the long-term.) Edit: In the specific context of a faux-academic paper, written by an academic, I can see that taking digs is a violation of the accepted norms & style. But "pretty uncool" is not a phrase I'd associate with flagging that.
- a_t48 4y ago
  "How many are objectively above a 7/10? Probably one of them…and not for his looks." The employees did nothing to deserve that.
  - bell-cot 4y ago
    Guess: You are judging "7/10" on the basis of the guys' looks, moral integrity, or similar "it is all about them" criteria. My judging criteria is closer to "would I introduce a granddaughter (who I would prefer to see in a good longer-term relationship) to them". My answer, given their current employment circumstances, is "NO". Doesn't matter if they might be the nicest guy in the world, look like the movie-star poster that my granddaughter put on the ceiling over her bed, or anything else. Their employer's ideal for work-life boundaries is "N/A, because you won't have any life for there to be a boundary". Note that I rated Elan at 0/10.
shanebellone 4y ago
I've seen a lot of this lately. I'm convinced that Elon is the luckiest man in history or is experiencing a deterioration in cognitive function. His actions and beliefs are incongruent with intelligence or rational thought.
- PM_me_your_math 4y ago
  Yes, the most successful entrepreneur on the planet is unintelligent and irrational.
  - shanebellone 4y ago
    Success != Intelligence
    - PM_me_your_math 4y ago
      The fact Musk has several successful complex enterprises denotes a high degree of intelligence. You know what denotes ignorance? Jealousy Hatred Refusing to admit you are wrong Not giving due credit Sowing division
  - analognoise 4y ago
    If you start on 3rd base you don't get to claim you hit a home run. Also, it's amazing to me the gyrations people do to legitimize wealth these days; the ancient Greeks knew if you were successful, part of that was luck. Now we have people contorting themselves Dr. Pangloss style, to say that "all is for the best" and that they of course deserve this wealth because they're so much BETTER. It's the weirdest shit ever.
  - dns_snek 4y ago
    Musk hardly fits the definition of an entrepreneur. Getting lucky with a couple of golden parachutes and investing in other people's ideas doesn't qualify imho.
    - shanebellone 4y ago
      He's executive who claims credit for others' work.
      - kcplate 4y ago
        He is also a person willing to put investment in to industries with a really long payoff and is willing to be patient enough to let it develop on a long timeline. Everybody criticizing this guy seems to miss this. It doesn’t matter if he is intelligent or not—he is willing to trod with capital where others won’t. Without his investment or even lending his interest to get other to invest, most of this “others work” he takes credit for wouldn’t come to fruition because no one else wants to invest in something that takes decades for a payoff.
throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
why?
- a_t48 4y ago
  > How many are objectively above a 7/10? Probably one of them…and not for his looks. Dudes didn't do anything but work at Twitter, no need to insult their attractiveness.
notRobot 4y ago
Yeah, it's very rude.

The dig at the Twitter engineers in there is pretty uncool.

by a_t48 4y ago

The dig at the Twitter engineers in there is pretty uncool.

politelemon 4y ago

And unnecessary

bell-cot 4y ago

Why? Admitting that I'm a old het guy, "works 80-120 hour/week, for an infamously demanding boss" does not sound like something that younger women would be looking for. (Though with Elan's well-documented history, I'd say that no women should rate him above 0/10 for the long-term.) Edit: In the specific context of a faux-academic paper, written by an academic, I can see that taking digs is a violation of the accepted norms & style. But "pretty uncool" is not a phrase I'd associate with flagging that.

a_t48 4y ago
"How many are objectively above a 7/10? Probably one of them…and not for his looks." The employees did nothing to deserve that.
- bell-cot 4y ago
  Guess: You are judging "7/10" on the basis of the guys' looks, moral integrity, or similar "it is all about them" criteria. My judging criteria is closer to "would I introduce a granddaughter (who I would prefer to see in a good longer-term relationship) to them". My answer, given their current employment circumstances, is "NO". Doesn't matter if they might be the nicest guy in the world, look like the movie-star poster that my granddaughter put on the ceiling over her bed, or anything else. Their employer's ideal for work-life boundaries is "N/A, because you won't have any life for there to be a boundary". Note that I rated Elan at 0/10.

shanebellone 4y ago

I've seen a lot of this lately. I'm convinced that Elon is the luckiest man in history or is experiencing a deterioration in cognitive function. His actions and beliefs are incongruent with intelligence or rational thought.

PM_me_your_math 4y ago
Yes, the most successful entrepreneur on the planet is unintelligent and irrational.
- shanebellone 4y ago
  Success != Intelligence
  - PM_me_your_math 4y ago
    The fact Musk has several successful complex enterprises denotes a high degree of intelligence. You know what denotes ignorance? Jealousy Hatred Refusing to admit you are wrong Not giving due credit Sowing division
- analognoise 4y ago
  If you start on 3rd base you don't get to claim you hit a home run. Also, it's amazing to me the gyrations people do to legitimize wealth these days; the ancient Greeks knew if you were successful, part of that was luck. Now we have people contorting themselves Dr. Pangloss style, to say that "all is for the best" and that they of course deserve this wealth because they're so much BETTER. It's the weirdest shit ever.
- dns_snek 4y ago
  Musk hardly fits the definition of an entrepreneur. Getting lucky with a couple of golden parachutes and investing in other people's ideas doesn't qualify imho.
  - shanebellone 4y ago
    He's executive who claims credit for others' work.
    - kcplate 4y ago
      He is also a person willing to put investment in to industries with a really long payoff and is willing to be patient enough to let it develop on a long timeline. Everybody criticizing this guy seems to miss this. It doesn’t matter if he is intelligent or not—he is willing to trod with capital where others won’t. Without his investment or even lending his interest to get other to invest, most of this “others work” he takes credit for wouldn’t come to fruition because no one else wants to invest in something that takes decades for a payoff.

throwaway0x7E6 4y ago

why?

a_t48 4y ago
> How many are objectively above a 7/10? Probably one of them…and not for his looks. Dudes didn't do anything but work at Twitter, no need to insult their attractiveness.

notRobot 4y ago

Yeah, it's very rude.