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> From a lot of (bad) places you don't know at the time of order whether it is going to be home delivery or not What on earth are you talking about? Every purc

> From a lot of (bad) places you don't know at the time of order whether it is going to be home delivery or not What on earth are you talking about? Every purchase for a physical item I’ve made since 2001 included a billing address and a shipping address. How on earth are you being tricked? Do you just not look at shipping address and get mad later? That is a very particular problem.

gorbypark 4y ago
I think what they are trying to say is that a lot of times you don't know (and don't have a choice) if you are going to have to go to a post office to pick up a package or if it will be delivered to the door. Sometimes it's up to the sender, sometimes it depends on the size and sometimes it up to the whim of the postal operator. I'd say only about 25% of my Amazon purchases here in Spain have the explicit option to go pick it up at a local shop or Amazon locker. The other 75% of the time I can have it only sent to my home address. Of those times, about 50% of the time they deliver to the door and the other 50% to some random shop nearby for me to pick up without any way of knowing which will be which. Obviously results will vary from country to country.
- braingenious 4y ago
  Edit: Nevermind. FYI in the US, there is categorically never any confusion as to where a package is being shipped. Ever.
  - tjoff 4y ago
    The question isn't where, but how.
    - braingenious 4y ago
      > From a lot of (bad) places you don't know at the time of order whether it is going to be home delivery or not. What does this sentence mean then?
      - tjoff 4y ago
        Home delivery = delivery to door. Often requiring you to be there to sign the pickup or let someone in the apartment complex. Not home delivery: Usually delivered to nearby gas station (or kiosk, grocery store, whatever) and/or post-box you can open with code. Where this is the norm it is usually a few minutes walking distance. But you can often pick where you want it, if you want it close to your work instead or wherever.
        braingenious 4y ago
        You have not answered my question at all. I know what home delivery is. I use it all the time! How is it possible that you do not know whether a package will come to your house or (by your example) a nearby gas station kiosk? Do you share an address with the nearby gas station kiosk?
        tjoff 4y ago
        How does not-home-delivery work then? If I send a package to your address, how will you get it? Automatically by home delivery? When you send a package the only information provided is often the shipping address. If the service uses home-delivery that means that someone comes knocking on my door. If they don't provide home-delivery it will delivered to the nearest pickup-point and I'll get a note in my mailbox saying that there is a package to pick up (in reality I already know this because of tracking information via the web, app and/or sms+email if that was provided when the package was sent). If the web site I'm ordering from provides it I can pick different options and depending on option I can pick which pickup point I prefer. But what if they don't? What if I'm ordering something from a different country? What if the shipping provider they offer in that country don't operate in my country? Even more common, it isn't even listed what provider they use for sending. They might probably use different providers depending on package size. If it is small it is going in my mailbox, if it is really big it can be too big even for my local gas station. So after ordering I get a tracking number and then I know which provider is gonna deliver it. And then I know if I have to WFH just to receive that package. Last week I got a package that I had ordered from a large companies EU site. No idea even what country the package was going to be sent from. And I had no idea how it was gonna be delivered - free shipping though. A week after ordering I got an text message saying that amazon would send the package (f*ck, bad sign) and that it would arrive between 19 and 22 the very same day (someone even paid extra for evening delivery huh?). Well, I wasn't home that day so... Lucky for me they were overbooked and couldn't get to my place and by 23 they sent a message saying that they postponed it to the next day (at which point I happened to be home). Or, what if they could just have dropped it off at the local pickup-point and I'd have it as soon as I got home? Not an option.

gorbypark 4y ago

I think what they are trying to say is that a lot of times you don't know (and don't have a choice) if you are going to have to go to a post office to pick up a package or if it will be delivered to the door. Sometimes it's up to the sender, sometimes it depends on the size and sometimes it up to the whim of the postal operator. I'd say only about 25% of my Amazon purchases here in Spain have the explicit option to go pick it up at a local shop or Amazon locker. The other 75% of the time I can have it only sent to my home address. Of those times, about 50% of the time they deliver to the door and the other 50% to some random shop nearby for me to pick up without any way of knowing which will be which. Obviously results will vary from country to country.

braingenious 4y ago
Edit: Nevermind. FYI in the US, there is categorically never any confusion as to where a package is being shipped. Ever.
- tjoff 4y ago
  The question isn't where, but how.
  - braingenious 4y ago
    > From a lot of (bad) places you don't know at the time of order whether it is going to be home delivery or not. What does this sentence mean then?
    - tjoff 4y ago
      Home delivery = delivery to door. Often requiring you to be there to sign the pickup or let someone in the apartment complex. Not home delivery: Usually delivered to nearby gas station (or kiosk, grocery store, whatever) and/or post-box you can open with code. Where this is the norm it is usually a few minutes walking distance. But you can often pick where you want it, if you want it close to your work instead or wherever.
      - braingenious 4y ago
        You have not answered my question at all. I know what home delivery is. I use it all the time! How is it possible that you do not know whether a package will come to your house or (by your example) a nearby gas station kiosk? Do you share an address with the nearby gas station kiosk?
        tjoff 4y ago
        How does not-home-delivery work then? If I send a package to your address, how will you get it? Automatically by home delivery? When you send a package the only information provided is often the shipping address. If the service uses home-delivery that means that someone comes knocking on my door. If they don't provide home-delivery it will delivered to the nearest pickup-point and I'll get a note in my mailbox saying that there is a package to pick up (in reality I already know this because of tracking information via the web, app and/or sms+email if that was provided when the package was sent). If the web site I'm ordering from provides it I can pick different options and depending on option I can pick which pickup point I prefer. But what if they don't? What if I'm ordering something from a different country? What if the shipping provider they offer in that country don't operate in my country? Even more common, it isn't even listed what provider they use for sending. They might probably use different providers depending on package size. If it is small it is going in my mailbox, if it is really big it can be too big even for my local gas station. So after ordering I get a tracking number and then I know which provider is gonna deliver it. And then I know if I have to WFH just to receive that package. Last week I got a package that I had ordered from a large companies EU site. No idea even what country the package was going to be sent from. And I had no idea how it was gonna be delivered - free shipping though. A week after ordering I got an text message saying that amazon would send the package (f*ck, bad sign) and that it would arrive between 19 and 22 the very same day (someone even paid extra for evening delivery huh?). Well, I wasn't home that day so... Lucky for me they were overbooked and couldn't get to my place and by 23 they sent a message saying that they postponed it to the next day (at which point I happened to be home). Or, what if they could just have dropped it off at the local pickup-point and I'd have it as soon as I got home? Not an option.