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>Tbh I thought David Lynchs Dune captured the oddity of the universe, the cruelty of the universe, and did it's own stuff as well. Wait till you hear about Jod

>Tbh I thought David Lynchs Dune captured the oddity of the universe, the cruelty of the universe, and did it's own stuff as well. Wait till you hear about Jodorowsky's Dune[1][2], the best film never made. With Pink Floyd doing the soundtrack, H.R. Giger doing the visuals, Jean "Moebius" Geiraud creating the story board, Dan O'Bannon on VFX, and Salvador Dali agreeing to play the Emperor, you'd get a lot to say about the oddity and cruelty of that universe. ...had anyone had the guts to actually fund Jodorowsky on that one. Alas, after assembling the all-star team, doing the pre-production, securing the rights, and being ready to go, he simply didn't get the funding to implement his vision. Giger, who hasn't been involved with film till that point, went on to make Alien with O'Bannon; and the project - despite never been made! - has influenced all subsequent space sagas. The documentary about it[3] is fascinating. [1]https://www.jodorowskysdune.com/ https://www.jodorowskysdune.com/ [2]https://www.openculture.com/2016/10/14-hour-epic-film-dune-that-alejandro-jodorowsky-never-made.html https://www.openculture.com/2016/10/14-hour-epic-film-dune-t... [3]https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1935156/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1935156/

mnky9800n 4y ago
I am anti-jodorowsky because he raped a woman, talked about how it was super important to the artistic integrity of the movie, then when people started having problems with that kind of thing, said he was just saying all that stuff to get the movie noticed because hollywood hates mexican cinema. so i don't really mourn that he didn't get to make a dune movie.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  That's really terrible. Now I'm wondering what '70s director would have been a good fit to replace him, while preserving the all-star cast of Welles, Jagger, Dali, etc. The comedy option would be if George Lucas tried psychedelics and took the gig instead of making Star Wars.
  - romwell 4y ago
    See my other comment. TL;DR: we have as much basis to believe he raped anyone as we have to believe thart he literally raped Frank Herbert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY That's to say, nothing aside from some words he said to promote his film, and later retracted.
- romwell 4y ago
  >I am anti-jodorowsky because he raped a woman That's a fact? My understanding is that the only source for that were his own remakrs in an interview, and that he later retracted them[1]. No other person ever claimed anything of the sort about him, there's no track record of assault, and there is no indication that he would be the kind of person to do that. In the very remakrs held against him, he said: >When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women's contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, 'I'm not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.' Then I told her, 'Pain does not hurt. Hit me.' And she hit me. I said, 'Harder.' And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, 'Now it's my turn. Roll the cameras.' And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed. " To me, that sounds like the actress was there with consent. Finally, this is a person for whom English is not a native language, and who uses the word "rape" quite loosely. For example, he said he "raped Frank Herbert... but with love"[2]. I would say, there really isn't enough basis to conclude that his statements about "rape" meant anything but artistic exaggeration. [1]https://www.artforum.com/news/alejandro-jodorowsky-speaks-out-after-el-museo-del-barrio-calls-off-retrospective-78538 https://www.artforum.com/news/alejandro-jodorowsky-speaks-ou... [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY

mnky9800n 4y ago

I am anti-jodorowsky because he raped a woman, talked about how it was super important to the artistic integrity of the movie, then when people started having problems with that kind of thing, said he was just saying all that stuff to get the movie noticed because hollywood hates mexican cinema. so i don't really mourn that he didn't get to make a dune movie.

Apocryphon 4y ago
That's really terrible. Now I'm wondering what '70s director would have been a good fit to replace him, while preserving the all-star cast of Welles, Jagger, Dali, etc. The comedy option would be if George Lucas tried psychedelics and took the gig instead of making Star Wars.
- romwell 4y ago
  See my other comment. TL;DR: we have as much basis to believe he raped anyone as we have to believe thart he literally raped Frank Herbert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY That's to say, nothing aside from some words he said to promote his film, and later retracted.
romwell 4y ago
>I am anti-jodorowsky because he raped a woman That's a fact? My understanding is that the only source for that were his own remakrs in an interview, and that he later retracted them[1]. No other person ever claimed anything of the sort about him, there's no track record of assault, and there is no indication that he would be the kind of person to do that. In the very remakrs held against him, he said: >When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women's contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, 'I'm not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.' Then I told her, 'Pain does not hurt. Hit me.' And she hit me. I said, 'Harder.' And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, 'Now it's my turn. Roll the cameras.' And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed. " To me, that sounds like the actress was there with consent. Finally, this is a person for whom English is not a native language, and who uses the word "rape" quite loosely. For example, he said he "raped Frank Herbert... but with love"[2]. I would say, there really isn't enough basis to conclude that his statements about "rape" meant anything but artistic exaggeration. [1]https://www.artforum.com/news/alejandro-jodorowsky-speaks-out-after-el-museo-del-barrio-calls-off-retrospective-78538 https://www.artforum.com/news/alejandro-jodorowsky-speaks-ou... [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjpH2qO8XY