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Considering how good face recognition is these days it would be nice to have legislation in place that you have to give explicit consent to any website in order

Considering how good face recognition is these days it would be nice to have legislation in place that you have to give explicit consent to any website in order to use your image. Govt can crawl the web and block websites from the countries ISP that don't comply. Hard to see another automated solution for this problem

iLoveOncall 4y ago
Indeed, that would surely stop Nigerian thiefs from using your photos. Impervious strategy.
- jack_pp 4y ago
  Use them for what?
  - iLoveOncall 4y ago
    Exactly what the article is about?
    - filoleg 4y ago
      Yeah, I am disheartened by some comments in this thread as well. Sure, let's implement these laws that essentially will be used for stiffening art, at least all these scammers (who already do illegal things) will start following the law, and these romance scams will stop /s. This is like the gun control debate, but much worse. At least with gun control, it has strong ties to geographic boundaries, given that guns are physical objects, so I can see some decent arguments for why it (at least hypothetically) could work (e.g., Australia). But with photos posted online, the locale is global internet, where everything is instantly reachable and replicable with pretty much zero marginal cost, from anywhere in the world. These proposals are imo peak idealism without much pragmatic thought applied at all. Mind you, I am not saying "let's do nothing, things are all good." But some of the proposed "fixes" to this I've seen here are truly useless at best and harmful at worst.
    - jack_pp 4y ago
      I didn't read the article tbh but the comment I replied to implied they used fake social media profiles which makes sense and would be prevented by what I suggested. The scammers would need to make a profile on a website you're familiar with and if those websites guarantee that a profile is who they say they are by law then all these problems go away. Doesn't matter if someone outside the system gets your photos
      - iLoveOncall 4y ago
        Read the article and come back to delete your nonsensical comments once you realize how irrelevant they are to the subject matter.
        jack_pp 4y ago
        I'm sorry but I don't understand your vitriol. > The women claimed to have met him on a dating app, social media platform, or a less-expected online space, like an app-based word or puzzle game (Words With Friends is popular with scammers)—anything with a chat feature. What the women didn’t know was that the 50-something fellow with the goatee who smiled back at them in photograph after photograph wasn’t the same person they were speaking with. Their charming lover was a scripted character used by gangs of overseas fakers to bilk cash from unsuspecting romantics, and Geras’ stolen photos were the bait. The article says the man feared for his life because husbands of these women called him. Presumably these women are from the same country as this guy so my suggestion would've stopped most of those vectors of attack. I mean yeah if they gave their phone number in the chat of a puzzle game then the scammers could send whatever pictures they wanted but that's a much harder thing to pull off than scam someone on a dating app or with a fake social media profile
bearmode 4y ago
Congrats, now 90+% of all photographs taken outside are completely unshareable online, and the > century old art of street photography is dead.
- jack_pp 4y ago
  Honestly I don't see anything wrong with that. The century old art is not dead, you can showcase your photos in a gallery just not online, without explicit consent of your subjects. A hundred years ago we didn't have this problem. Most portraits have their background blurred so those wouldn't be a problem. Street photos can have the faces blurred. Why are we protecting sharing these street photos of random people anyway?
- Ekaros 4y ago
  Seems like victory for privacy. You could get a AI to censor people faces automatically too.

iLoveOncall 4y ago

Indeed, that would surely stop Nigerian thiefs from using your photos. Impervious strategy.

jack_pp 4y ago
Use them for what?
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  Exactly what the article is about?
  - filoleg 4y ago
    Yeah, I am disheartened by some comments in this thread as well. Sure, let's implement these laws that essentially will be used for stiffening art, at least all these scammers (who already do illegal things) will start following the law, and these romance scams will stop /s. This is like the gun control debate, but much worse. At least with gun control, it has strong ties to geographic boundaries, given that guns are physical objects, so I can see some decent arguments for why it (at least hypothetically) could work (e.g., Australia). But with photos posted online, the locale is global internet, where everything is instantly reachable and replicable with pretty much zero marginal cost, from anywhere in the world. These proposals are imo peak idealism without much pragmatic thought applied at all. Mind you, I am not saying "let's do nothing, things are all good." But some of the proposed "fixes" to this I've seen here are truly useless at best and harmful at worst.
  - jack_pp 4y ago
    I didn't read the article tbh but the comment I replied to implied they used fake social media profiles which makes sense and would be prevented by what I suggested. The scammers would need to make a profile on a website you're familiar with and if those websites guarantee that a profile is who they say they are by law then all these problems go away. Doesn't matter if someone outside the system gets your photos
    - iLoveOncall 4y ago
      Read the article and come back to delete your nonsensical comments once you realize how irrelevant they are to the subject matter.
      - jack_pp 4y ago
        I'm sorry but I don't understand your vitriol. > The women claimed to have met him on a dating app, social media platform, or a less-expected online space, like an app-based word or puzzle game (Words With Friends is popular with scammers)—anything with a chat feature. What the women didn’t know was that the 50-something fellow with the goatee who smiled back at them in photograph after photograph wasn’t the same person they were speaking with. Their charming lover was a scripted character used by gangs of overseas fakers to bilk cash from unsuspecting romantics, and Geras’ stolen photos were the bait. The article says the man feared for his life because husbands of these women called him. Presumably these women are from the same country as this guy so my suggestion would've stopped most of those vectors of attack. I mean yeah if they gave their phone number in the chat of a puzzle game then the scammers could send whatever pictures they wanted but that's a much harder thing to pull off than scam someone on a dating app or with a fake social media profile

bearmode 4y ago

Congrats, now 90+% of all photographs taken outside are completely unshareable online, and the > century old art of street photography is dead.

jack_pp 4y ago
Honestly I don't see anything wrong with that. The century old art is not dead, you can showcase your photos in a gallery just not online, without explicit consent of your subjects. A hundred years ago we didn't have this problem. Most portraits have their background blurred so those wouldn't be a problem. Street photos can have the faces blurred. Why are we protecting sharing these street photos of random people anyway?
Ekaros 4y ago
Seems like victory for privacy. You could get a AI to censor people faces automatically too.