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Whoa there buddy. Your statement is both downright offensive and untrue. 1. Great recruiters work long hours around others’ schedules 2. Recruiters deal with

Whoa there buddy. Your statement is both downright offensive and untrue. 1. Great recruiters work long hours around others’ schedules 2. Recruiters deal with tons of rejection that most developers don’t have the stomach for 3. Female recruiters are often overworked, harassed, mansplained to and disrespected in our industry as they deal with fragile male egos, imposter syndrome, interview anxiety, etc To build a real career as a realtor or recruiter requires perseverance in the face of rejection, work and networking skills. They are worthy of our respect.

csomar 4y ago
Are you sure we are getting contacted by the same recruiters? I'm pretty sure most recruiters are not like that; and we would be better without them. Recruiters exists because companies wants to save on $$ (it would make more sense to let developers do the recruiting, and not someone with no technical knowledge). Of course, this has the opposite result which is why the hiring market is such a sh*t-show.
- Consultant32452 4y ago
  I'm a whore and the recruiters are my pimps. They only like me because the johns hire me. The world makes more sense through that lens.
  - dijit 4y ago
    This whole thread is shameful. Recruiters do a valuable job; I don't pity them and I do not envy them. The number of bad recruiters I've interacted with are high, but that's largely selection bias: the ones that reach me are not paying attention enough to realise that I'm not going to move. I've worked closely with recruiters and their job is tiring and thankless; in the end though they can go home peacefully and it's easier to plan their day. I can't speak to the reason I noticed this phenomena (of conventionally attractive women being overrepresented in recruiting), but I could believe that it's possible that men are more likely to respond to pretty women reaching out to them with kind words and making them feel wanted and valued; thus conventionally attractive women tend to be more successful in the industry, and thus we sort of have some kind of survivorship bias at play. I don't know if that's true, but I could believe it quite comfortably.
    - Consultant32452 4y ago
      Pimps serve a purpose. Sometimes they are good and hook me up with johns so I make good money. Sometimes they protect me from bad johns. Sometimes they abuse me by sending me to johns they know will hurt me and then take all the money.
  - nigerianbrince 4y ago
    I know it's against the guidelines but: bruh
MikePlacid 4y ago
My son worked as a summer job at a small recruiting setup in Silicon Valley. He was actually doing the interviews. - Oh, but doesn't it require a lot of technical knowledge? - Not exactly, we are just checking a) if he has at least 5 years of experience, b) that he graduated from one of the top 10 schools. >perseverance in the face of rejection The only rejection this company was facing was when their software pipeline for dumping resumes at Google and others was broken for a week. So no money was incoming. - Oh, I can look at it if they want. - See, this thing is written by a friend of the owner. They live at the same dorm room, actually. So it's politically incorrect for me to even suggest that something is wrong. And so they persevered, indeed.
throwaway0x7E6 4y ago

csomar 4y ago

Are you sure we are getting contacted by the same recruiters? I'm pretty sure most recruiters are not like that; and we would be better without them. Recruiters exists because companies wants to save on $$ (it would make more sense to let developers do the recruiting, and not someone with no technical knowledge). Of course, this has the opposite result which is why the hiring market is such a sh*t-show.

Consultant32452 4y ago
I'm a whore and the recruiters are my pimps. They only like me because the johns hire me. The world makes more sense through that lens.
- dijit 4y ago
  This whole thread is shameful. Recruiters do a valuable job; I don't pity them and I do not envy them. The number of bad recruiters I've interacted with are high, but that's largely selection bias: the ones that reach me are not paying attention enough to realise that I'm not going to move. I've worked closely with recruiters and their job is tiring and thankless; in the end though they can go home peacefully and it's easier to plan their day. I can't speak to the reason I noticed this phenomena (of conventionally attractive women being overrepresented in recruiting), but I could believe that it's possible that men are more likely to respond to pretty women reaching out to them with kind words and making them feel wanted and valued; thus conventionally attractive women tend to be more successful in the industry, and thus we sort of have some kind of survivorship bias at play. I don't know if that's true, but I could believe it quite comfortably.
  - Consultant32452 4y ago
    Pimps serve a purpose. Sometimes they are good and hook me up with johns so I make good money. Sometimes they protect me from bad johns. Sometimes they abuse me by sending me to johns they know will hurt me and then take all the money.
- nigerianbrince 4y ago
  I know it's against the guidelines but: bruh

MikePlacid 4y ago

My son worked as a summer job at a small recruiting setup in Silicon Valley. He was actually doing the interviews. - Oh, but doesn't it require a lot of technical knowledge? - Not exactly, we are just checking a) if he has at least 5 years of experience, b) that he graduated from one of the top 10 schools. >perseverance in the face of rejection The only rejection this company was facing was when their software pipeline for dumping resumes at Google and others was broken for a week. So no money was incoming. - Oh, I can look at it if they want. - See, this thing is written by a friend of the owner. They live at the same dorm room, actually. So it's politically incorrect for me to even suggest that something is wrong. And so they persevered, indeed.

throwaway0x7E6 4y ago