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> Since 2016, Tesla has claimed that all its vehicles produced going forward have “all the needed hardware” to become self-driving with future software updates.

> Since 2016, Tesla has claimed that all its vehicles produced going forward have “all the needed hardware” to become self-driving with future software updates. The specific claim in 2016 was that "as of today, all Tesla vehicles produced in our factory – including Model 3 – will have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver": https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now-have-full-self-driving-hardware https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now... Maybe they'll give free radar upgrades to everyone. Maybe it will be lidar installations next. > Tesla was always going to keep improving its Autopilot/self-driving hardware so there’s nothing wrong with what’s happening, Well, except for all the lies told to the people who bought into the Full Self-Driving puffery.

powerbroker 4y ago
I'm coining a new term: "gas-ware" New technology appearing in advanced electric vehicles. Much like 'gaslighting', a clever huckster keeps saying, its 'coming soon', and 'its has ___-capacity'. A common strategy for a 'gasware' creator, is he keeps moving the goal-posts. A necessary pre-requisite: high charisma and notoriety.
- pedrovhb 4y ago
  Thank you for mentioning gaslighting. I had that thought immediately but was wondering to myself whether it applied here (which means it was working!) It's baffling that a company can do that and expect to still be trusted in the future, and with people's lives, no less. Alas, it'll likely blow over, if it even makes any kind of splash. It'll be interesting to see the copious amounts of doublethink in the announcement.
- rkagerer 4y ago
  Sounds like there's some overlap with the well-established term 'vaporware'.
  - andy_jensen 4y ago
    That term doesn't exist
mrjin 4y ago
To me FSD is a lie. I don't see why he would not use another lie to cover it up. To safely drive on the road, we'll need to understand the environment surrounding us precisely. Unfortunately for all auto-driving approaches, I cannot see anything to do with that. Sensors are actually least to worry about. Given the popularity of the Tesla, I would expect dramatic increase of (fatal) accidents involving Tesla/FSD in the next a couple of years. Hopefully I'm wrong.

powerbroker 4y ago

I'm coining a new term: "gas-ware" New technology appearing in advanced electric vehicles. Much like 'gaslighting', a clever huckster keeps saying, its 'coming soon', and 'its has ___-capacity'. A common strategy for a 'gasware' creator, is he keeps moving the goal-posts. A necessary pre-requisite: high charisma and notoriety.

pedrovhb 4y ago
Thank you for mentioning gaslighting. I had that thought immediately but was wondering to myself whether it applied here (which means it was working!) It's baffling that a company can do that and expect to still be trusted in the future, and with people's lives, no less. Alas, it'll likely blow over, if it even makes any kind of splash. It'll be interesting to see the copious amounts of doublethink in the announcement.
rkagerer 4y ago
Sounds like there's some overlap with the well-established term 'vaporware'.
- andy_jensen 4y ago
  That term doesn't exist

mrjin 4y ago

To me FSD is a lie. I don't see why he would not use another lie to cover it up. To safely drive on the road, we'll need to understand the environment surrounding us precisely. Unfortunately for all auto-driving approaches, I cannot see anything to do with that. Sensors are actually least to worry about. Given the popularity of the Tesla, I would expect dramatic increase of (fatal) accidents involving Tesla/FSD in the next a couple of years. Hopefully I'm wrong.