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For me, the most fascinating part is about women refusing to accept they've been scammed or wanting a relationship with the men whose pictures were stolen, even

For me, the most fascinating part is about women refusing to accept they've been scammed or wanting a relationship with the men whose pictures were stolen, even though some of them are gay. It is quite similar to cult followers like QAnon. They want to believe desperately on what is comforting discarding what is reasonable. My Brazilian family of Bolsonaro supporters camping in front of barracks demanding a coup-d'etat is an example of it, similar to Republicans that believe in the Big Lie. Most people love comforting and convenient lies and don't like uncomfortable truths.

MarcoZavala 4y ago
rahimnathwani 4y ago
"wanting a relationship with the men whose pictures were stolen" This is the plot of 'Love Hard' with Jimmy O. Yang.
thephyber 4y ago
I think you are conflating System 1 and System 2 thinking (from Kahneman's _Thinking Fast and Slow_ [1]). Frauds typically work by triggering our System 1 ("lizard brain", containing our emotions and our innate mate selection/attraction) which selectively / temporarily disables our System 2 (cognitive / rational faculties). We have words to describe the abstractions in the mind ("ego", "defense mechanism") which form filters that prevent information from passing System 1 into System 2 unless our mind is open to accepting it. The entire point of these frauds is to trigger System 1 of the victim. This article[2] was eye-opening for me in helping me understand how the brain filters information before it can reach System 2. You probably notice it when you talk to people and they reject / deflect facts that disconfirm their priors. While I agree with you about the {QAnon, The Big Lie, Bolsonaro protesters} examples, I think people (including myself) severely overestimate _our own_ ability to withstand something untrue that tickles our confirmation bias. We all have these features, only some people have better control over their System 1 filters. I'm fascinated by these topics because (1) I work in cybersecurity and (2) I have family members that fell into QAnon + The Big Lie. Learning about _Street Epistemology_[3] has been really interesting to help me better understand not only many of these belief systems, but how discussing them in selective ways can avoid the filters/defenses of System 1. [1] https://suebehaviouraldesign.com/kahneman-fast-slow-thinking/ https://suebehaviouraldesign.com/kahneman-fast-slow-thinking... [2] https://eriktorenberg.substack.com/p/truth-status-and-tribes https://eriktorenberg.substack.com/p/truth-status-and-tribes [3] https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Street_Epistemology https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Street_Epistemology
- diego_moita 4y ago
  > I think you are conflating System 1 and System 2 thinking (from Kahneman's _Thinking Fast and Slow_ [1]). Agree. Very good point. Thanks.
willi59549879 4y ago
I guess a reason is the time they spent having conversations with that person. If you talked for a long time you are emotionally invested and don't want to let go anymore.

MarcoZavala 4y ago

rahimnathwani 4y ago

"wanting a relationship with the men whose pictures were stolen" This is the plot of 'Love Hard' with Jimmy O. Yang.

thephyber 4y ago

I think you are conflating System 1 and System 2 thinking (from Kahneman's _Thinking Fast and Slow_ [1]). Frauds typically work by triggering our System 1 ("lizard brain", containing our emotions and our innate mate selection/attraction) which selectively / temporarily disables our System 2 (cognitive / rational faculties). We have words to describe the abstractions in the mind ("ego", "defense mechanism") which form filters that prevent information from passing System 1 into System 2 unless our mind is open to accepting it. The entire point of these frauds is to trigger System 1 of the victim. This article[2] was eye-opening for me in helping me understand how the brain filters information before it can reach System 2. You probably notice it when you talk to people and they reject / deflect facts that disconfirm their priors. While I agree with you about the {QAnon, The Big Lie, Bolsonaro protesters} examples, I think people (including myself) severely overestimate _our own_ ability to withstand something untrue that tickles our confirmation bias. We all have these features, only some people have better control over their System 1 filters. I'm fascinated by these topics because (1) I work in cybersecurity and (2) I have family members that fell into QAnon + The Big Lie. Learning about _Street Epistemology_[3] has been really interesting to help me better understand not only many of these belief systems, but how discussing them in selective ways can avoid the filters/defenses of System 1. [1] https://suebehaviouraldesign.com/kahneman-fast-slow-thinking/ https://suebehaviouraldesign.com/kahneman-fast-slow-thinking... [2] https://eriktorenberg.substack.com/p/truth-status-and-tribes https://eriktorenberg.substack.com/p/truth-status-and-tribes [3] https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Street_Epistemology https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Street_Epistemology

diego_moita 4y ago
> I think you are conflating System 1 and System 2 thinking (from Kahneman's _Thinking Fast and Slow_ [1]). Agree. Very good point. Thanks.

willi59549879 4y ago

I guess a reason is the time they spent having conversations with that person. If you talked for a long time you are emotionally invested and don't want to let go anymore.