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A side effect of this is that almost all job position advertisement are disgusting to look at. They are all about this kind of mindless glue code programming, b

by hsn915 4y ago

A side effect of this is that almost all job position advertisement are disgusting to look at. They are all about this kind of mindless glue code programming, but wrapped in marketing speak to make it look like "you get to use awesome bleeding edge latest technologies" when in reality it is "you have to figure out how to configure 10 different things to work together to sort of kind of produce the intended behavior". In the last 3 years I think I never saw even once a job description on any popular job board where they advertise that you will do some actually interesting programming. The only ones I've seen have been on Twitter but from companies doing things in areas I have no experience in (e.g. game engine programming).

throwandpatch 4y ago
I have exactly the same problem.. got sucked into "the cloud" 4-5 years ago at my current employer. Now I desperately want to get another job. Something with preferably no or minimal cloud involved. The trouble is that the jobs that sound interesting don't reflect my expertise.. Now should I try to start from 0 with a junior salary? Does not make sense with a family. I don't really have an idea yet.. but I urgently need to change something because my current work is killing everything I ever felt for software development.
- aprdm 4y ago
  Try to find work in visual effects, lots of interesting work and they’re on prems. Anyone with software background can get in !
  - myth_drannon 4y ago
    Right, but the hours are long and the pay is low. VFX is even worse than games from career perspective
    - aprdm 4y ago
      That's not true in programming. I was 9-5 on 7 years there over multiple studios. My last studio (one of the most known ones) actually had 4d weeks. It is definitely true for VFX Artists. And you will definitely get a pay cut compared to tech (50%-ish TC)
ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
I suspect that this is why leetcode tests are so prevalent. They basically test for distance from school, and not much else, as the algorithms aren’t really reflective of real-world work, which, as the article states, is really fairly simple “glue,” binding together prefab sections. If someone is good at, and energized by, writing “from scratch,” and "learning the whole system," then they are actually not what you want. You want people that are good at rote, can learn fairly shallow APIs quickly, and are incurious as to why things work.

by hsn915 4y ago

throwandpatch 4y ago

I have exactly the same problem.. got sucked into "the cloud" 4-5 years ago at my current employer. Now I desperately want to get another job. Something with preferably no or minimal cloud involved. The trouble is that the jobs that sound interesting don't reflect my expertise.. Now should I try to start from 0 with a junior salary? Does not make sense with a family. I don't really have an idea yet.. but I urgently need to change something because my current work is killing everything I ever felt for software development.

aprdm 4y ago
Try to find work in visual effects, lots of interesting work and they’re on prems. Anyone with software background can get in !
- myth_drannon 4y ago
  Right, but the hours are long and the pay is low. VFX is even worse than games from career perspective
  - aprdm 4y ago
    That's not true in programming. I was 9-5 on 7 years there over multiple studios. My last studio (one of the most known ones) actually had 4d weeks. It is definitely true for VFX Artists. And you will definitely get a pay cut compared to tech (50%-ish TC)

ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago

I suspect that this is why leetcode tests are so prevalent. They basically test for distance from school, and not much else, as the algorithms aren’t really reflective of real-world work, which, as the article states, is really fairly simple “glue,” binding together prefab sections. If someone is good at, and energized by, writing “from scratch,” and "learning the whole system," then they are actually not what you want. You want people that are good at rote, can learn fairly shallow APIs quickly, and are incurious as to why things work.