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It must be more than that, since they are recalling the tires and destroying them. They're doing a new run of tires, and having local bike mechanics swap them o

It must be more than that, since they are recalling the tires and destroying them. They're doing a new run of tires, and having local bike mechanics swap them out.

stefan_ 4y ago
And.. what's taking so long? We are not talking about some custom-made part to fix some frame defect or another. Rim strips and tires are plentiful. They could pay neighborhood bike shops a flat fee to get this recall out of the way for their customers.
- dylan604 4y ago
  What takes anything in today's world to take so long?...It's manufactured in China. They discovered the problem. Waited long enough to see how extensive the problem was. After whatever investigation process there was, it was determined that they were just manufactured poorly. Design error or manufacturing error? More testing. Now that the true issue is understood, how to fix it. Iterate changes to make new replacement better than original design. Cool. Now, find a factory and get in their queue to manufacture the thing. Receive shipment via literal slow boat from China. Distribute parts, arrange repair mechanic appointments, etc. I'm not defending the situation I find myself in, but if you honestly can't think of "what's taking so long", then I'd suggest you're just not trying at all. Maybe you have no experience manufacturing something, so that might be out of your wheel house. It's not like someone can just say 'git clone bicycle parts' or 'npm update bicycle parts'
  - stefan_ 4y ago
    You are kidding, right? As the poster above already noticed, this is a common as mud problem on bicycles and you should be able to replace these parts (and just about any non-electrical part on it) with a variety of choices from a variety of vendors. And "you" being "any bike shop" given this is a recall the vendor is expected to perform (or delegate) and pay for. If you can't, the reality is you didn't buy a bike, you bought a bicycle-shaped object with proprietary components designed for the landfill.
    - dylan604 4y ago
      It's the Juicero of bikes. Overall, I'm quite happy with my bike. It does exactly what I wanted it to when I purchased it. However, it's the company itself that just seems to have it's head insert fully up their backside. It seems to be a Seattle thing, but I feel it would fit in perfectly inside the SV VC world of "disruptors" where a concept that is as ubiquitous as a bike gets updated to be the VC darling of a thing only to realize the updates are so stupid that it devalues the entire thing. Rather than using stock component parts, let's custom design everything!! What could go wrong?
      - tboughen 4y ago
        To those who don't know, Juicero's juice pressing machines were notoriously complex and expensive due to extensive use of custom components. https://blog.bolt.io/juicero/ https://blog.bolt.io/juicero/
- googlryas 4y ago
  How should I know? But I imagine with the popularity of the radwagon4, they would get this out of the way quicker if they could and continue selling them. I think they used some weird/rare type of tire - there's talk in radwagon forums of replacing the tires with "moped tires", but I never looked into it. But if this was just a case of sending people to their local bike mechanic who would take a new tire off the wall, I'm sure they would do that, since their process has you going to a mechanic(eventually) anyway once the new tires are in.
- ericsilva 4y ago
  The tires literally are custom for the RadWagon 4. It uses 22" wheels and tires, which is a non-standard size. You can't buy 22" tires from anyone except Vee Tire Co, which makes them specifically for Rad Power Bikes.
  - alistairSH 4y ago
    18x2.75 motorcycle/scooter tires should fit (so says Reddit).

It must be more than that, since they are recalling the tires and destroying them. They're doing a new run of tires, and having local bike mechanics swap them out.

stefan_ 4y ago

And.. what's taking so long? We are not talking about some custom-made part to fix some frame defect or another. Rim strips and tires are plentiful. They could pay neighborhood bike shops a flat fee to get this recall out of the way for their customers.

dylan604 4y ago
What takes anything in today's world to take so long?...It's manufactured in China. They discovered the problem. Waited long enough to see how extensive the problem was. After whatever investigation process there was, it was determined that they were just manufactured poorly. Design error or manufacturing error? More testing. Now that the true issue is understood, how to fix it. Iterate changes to make new replacement better than original design. Cool. Now, find a factory and get in their queue to manufacture the thing. Receive shipment via literal slow boat from China. Distribute parts, arrange repair mechanic appointments, etc. I'm not defending the situation I find myself in, but if you honestly can't think of "what's taking so long", then I'd suggest you're just not trying at all. Maybe you have no experience manufacturing something, so that might be out of your wheel house. It's not like someone can just say 'git clone bicycle parts' or 'npm update bicycle parts'
- stefan_ 4y ago
  You are kidding, right? As the poster above already noticed, this is a common as mud problem on bicycles and you should be able to replace these parts (and just about any non-electrical part on it) with a variety of choices from a variety of vendors. And "you" being "any bike shop" given this is a recall the vendor is expected to perform (or delegate) and pay for. If you can't, the reality is you didn't buy a bike, you bought a bicycle-shaped object with proprietary components designed for the landfill.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    It's the Juicero of bikes. Overall, I'm quite happy with my bike. It does exactly what I wanted it to when I purchased it. However, it's the company itself that just seems to have it's head insert fully up their backside. It seems to be a Seattle thing, but I feel it would fit in perfectly inside the SV VC world of "disruptors" where a concept that is as ubiquitous as a bike gets updated to be the VC darling of a thing only to realize the updates are so stupid that it devalues the entire thing. Rather than using stock component parts, let's custom design everything!! What could go wrong?
    - tboughen 4y ago
      To those who don't know, Juicero's juice pressing machines were notoriously complex and expensive due to extensive use of custom components. https://blog.bolt.io/juicero/ https://blog.bolt.io/juicero/
googlryas 4y ago
How should I know? But I imagine with the popularity of the radwagon4, they would get this out of the way quicker if they could and continue selling them. I think they used some weird/rare type of tire - there's talk in radwagon forums of replacing the tires with "moped tires", but I never looked into it. But if this was just a case of sending people to their local bike mechanic who would take a new tire off the wall, I'm sure they would do that, since their process has you going to a mechanic(eventually) anyway once the new tires are in.
ericsilva 4y ago
The tires literally are custom for the RadWagon 4. It uses 22" wheels and tires, which is a non-standard size. You can't buy 22" tires from anyone except Vee Tire Co, which makes them specifically for Rad Power Bikes.
- alistairSH 4y ago
  18x2.75 motorcycle/scooter tires should fit (so says Reddit).