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> The idea of "men and women need to be segregated in certain places (particularly when nude) and must dress differently' is likely the cause of how prevalent t
by LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
> The idea of "men and women need to be segregated in certain places (particularly when nude) and must dress differently' is likely the cause of how prevalent transgender people have become.
Have you ever been a parent? Because males and females are different, and the sexual pressures on them are immensely different too, for both social and physical reasons. Similarly, sexual risk (to anyone, but especially children) is incredibly lopsided and comes almost entirely from males.
If you ignore sexual differences in other children you will let your children be mistreated, if you ignore sexual differences in adults you will get them molested.
> It was always an unsustainable system that was only allowed to flourish because a powerful minority wanted it to.
Pretty much all women know and are cautious, if not fearful, of male violence. They fought for women's sex-based rights because of obvious need. This isn't men putting women in purdah, these are protections they've achieved for themselves. Most men can see the extra work women have to do for safety reasons. The need for women's spaces is far from a minority opinion.
> Like are you a boy that relates primarily to women? Well you either endure being separated from them for a ton of meaningful developmental activities or you become transgender.
If you truly empathized with women you'd realized that your size and strength and biology makes you a risk that another woman wouldn't be and you'd socialize with women in mixed-sex areas and activities where your presence wasn't an undue burden.
> I think there are plenty of people who would be fine with their biological sex if it didn't come with so much societal baggage.
It's the physical baggage people are wrongly trying to ignore.
- RC_ITR 4y ago.
- zozbot234 4y ago> You're making an argument to make better men, but your method is victimize weak boys instead. Unfortunately, even weak males are a physical threat to females. The difference in upper body strength is that stark. So if you're trying to split society along some line to reduce the problem of physical aggression, gender is not a bad place to do it. (Add more lines, and you'd end up with a system more akin to boxing weight classes, which would be more than a bit ridiculous. It's way better to invest in enforcement of very rigid norms against physical abuse.)
- LawTalkingGuy 4y ago> Have you heard of being gay? I'm guessing you have, but you choose not to care Being gay has nothing to do with child abuse. You're gay-baiting, conflating transgenderism with homosexuality. This is one of the issues the LGB Alliance was founded to address. > the insane amount of male-on-male sexual violence that occurs among children in the current system. Yes, from men. That's my point. As a parent you need to know the sex of those who are interacting with your children. > Again, then why do we let young boys change in the same room as grown men? Is the problem really just about biological sex? We let them change with either parent because presumably their parent can keep them safe with active supervision. Generally though, other parents would recommend that young children use the womens' facility with another woman if neither parent is available. > Wait until you find out how gay men feel! Men are men, straight or gay. Women are smaller and not as strong. > Sure, and what exactly is the reason behind why a vagina is the definition of who is a woman deserving of protection? Having a vagina is not the definition of a female, but they do strongly correlate. Everyone deserves protection but women's protection is largely achieved by providing sexually segregated spaces. > There are plenty of weak men who empathize with women who are very at risk for physical and sexual violence. Hopefully most males empathize with women but even if the risks were justification for a man to leave male spaces they aren't a justification to invade female spaces. > IS the only solution to say who cares you were born with a penis? Why is your solution to take away all women and children's safety to provide questionable safety to some males? If you can't stop abusive men in the men's room how do you plan to stop them from following you into the women's washroom using the same legal exception written for you? > Buddy, would you be willing to believe I have less than zero interest in women? Would you believe that this isn't relevant? It's not "Women's spaces, and anyone else who swears they don't like vaj". Women's spaces don't work if there are exceptions, they only work if they can be used to instantly exclude any male who tries to enter. You being there lessens the effectiveness of the system even if you are pure of heart.