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I think in any moderately large business you'll have both. 1. Is usually implementing business logic for the product 2. Is generally working on things #1 uses

by nijave 4y ago

I think in any moderately large business you'll have both. 1. Is usually implementing business logic for the product 2. Is generally working on things #1 uses to work productively I'm not sure about the composition on HN, but I see a lot of #2 in "DevOps"/SRE roles. Usually these roles are skipped for small startups but at some point they get big enough they need dedicated people to take them on

tayo42 4y ago
That's not my experience with sre and DevOps, often it's just consuming tool written by others. It's basically being a sysadmin with a git repo
mattgreenrocks 4y ago
#2 is distinct from pure DevOps/SRE. Those roles have co-opted the infrastructure meaning to be more along the lines of "making sure things don't catch fire at 3am." Which is valuable, but, even farther removed from programming. Still, they value the same things that the "pure infrastructure" people I were referring to do simply because they end up being on the hook for how it behaves.