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I'll go ahead and ask the obvious question.. What's the difference with Copilot? In my exactly 3 minutes test, it did worse, even if only slightly. Right now

I'll go ahead and ask the obvious question.. What's the difference with Copilot? In my exactly 3 minutes test, it did worse, even if only slightly. Right now it is free, but that won't last, right? Do i have to expect any shady data collection practices? More interestingly, how is this trained? Have you guys done your own finetuning of gpt3 or it's something completely different?

varunkmohan 4y ago
Right now, we are providing a free alternative to Copilot and expanding the set of features we support. We are actively working on improving the quality of suggestions and would appreciate feedback. We guarantee that all users that join now will be able to use the product free forever. We explicitly allow users to opt out of sending data to us post inference. We believe we're in the early innings of code assistants and would like to democratize the technology so we don't have plans to monetize this tier of usage. The model is hosted internally and trained on public code. For more details on the specifics, please take a look at our FAQ page on the website.
- Micoloth 4y ago
  Cool.. Thanks for your answer I have to say, in my quick tests completions do arrive slightly but noticeably faster than Copilot's.. Which is enough to make this interesting! Unless you are using a much smaller model, in which case it's too easy ahah. Thanks and good luck for your further plans, I'll keep trying this
  - varunkmohan 4y ago
    Thanks! We've made a lot of optimizations internally for latency. We've gotten a lot of feedback that it is faster than Copilot but obviously they operate at much larger scale.
- a1371 4y ago
  Say this on your landing page because it's a good differentiator, but it's not clear
  - varunkmohan 4y ago
    Thanks for the feedback!
culi 4y ago
> In my exactly 3 minutes test, it did worse, even if only slightly. What exactly does this mean?
linuxdaemon 4y ago
I'm definitely for any alternative to an MS solution (especially one where I have to give them actual money to use it), but I had kind of the same experience. Not extensive testing, and I'm using it in PyCharm, so I don't know if that changes the behavior. The completion was weird. I tried to type "#Function to return the value passed". And it started to autocomplete with what I typed and what it was suggesting all jumbled up and completely unintelligible. Once I hit tab, it completed correctly, but it didn't make any sense until I hit tab, so I couldn't really see what I was completing until it was done. The more I played with it, I noticed it started to not actually suggest anything. But the codeium plugin is just showing a wait spinner in my status bar, so maybe it's getting pounded with HN people testing it right now.
- varunkmohan 4y ago
  Interesting - would love if you could join our Discord (https://discord.gg/3XFf78nAx5 https://discord.gg/3XFf78nAx5) and we are happy to help figure out what's going on!
  - linuxdaemon 4y ago
    It looks like after 3 more minutes of testing, it's a me problem. There is one particular file that goes bonkers, which just so happened to be the one I had up. If I start a new file in that project, or work on an existing file in a different project it's fine and the completion works as expected. I can't make it work with the one file, but yeah...not a codeium problem at all. I'll be sure to test at least 5 minutes next time ;)

varunkmohan 4y ago

Right now, we are providing a free alternative to Copilot and expanding the set of features we support. We are actively working on improving the quality of suggestions and would appreciate feedback. We guarantee that all users that join now will be able to use the product free forever. We explicitly allow users to opt out of sending data to us post inference. We believe we're in the early innings of code assistants and would like to democratize the technology so we don't have plans to monetize this tier of usage. The model is hosted internally and trained on public code. For more details on the specifics, please take a look at our FAQ page on the website.

Micoloth 4y ago
Cool.. Thanks for your answer I have to say, in my quick tests completions do arrive slightly but noticeably faster than Copilot's.. Which is enough to make this interesting! Unless you are using a much smaller model, in which case it's too easy ahah. Thanks and good luck for your further plans, I'll keep trying this
- varunkmohan 4y ago
  Thanks! We've made a lot of optimizations internally for latency. We've gotten a lot of feedback that it is faster than Copilot but obviously they operate at much larger scale.
a1371 4y ago
Say this on your landing page because it's a good differentiator, but it's not clear
- varunkmohan 4y ago
  Thanks for the feedback!

culi 4y ago

> In my exactly 3 minutes test, it did worse, even if only slightly. What exactly does this mean?

linuxdaemon 4y ago

I'm definitely for any alternative to an MS solution (especially one where I have to give them actual money to use it), but I had kind of the same experience. Not extensive testing, and I'm using it in PyCharm, so I don't know if that changes the behavior. The completion was weird. I tried to type "#Function to return the value passed". And it started to autocomplete with what I typed and what it was suggesting all jumbled up and completely unintelligible. Once I hit tab, it completed correctly, but it didn't make any sense until I hit tab, so I couldn't really see what I was completing until it was done. The more I played with it, I noticed it started to not actually suggest anything. But the codeium plugin is just showing a wait spinner in my status bar, so maybe it's getting pounded with HN people testing it right now.

varunkmohan 4y ago
Interesting - would love if you could join our Discord (https://discord.gg/3XFf78nAx5 https://discord.gg/3XFf78nAx5) and we are happy to help figure out what's going on!
- linuxdaemon 4y ago
  It looks like after 3 more minutes of testing, it's a me problem. There is one particular file that goes bonkers, which just so happened to be the one I had up. If I start a new file in that project, or work on an existing file in a different project it's fine and the completion works as expected. I can't make it work with the one file, but yeah...not a codeium problem at all. I'll be sure to test at least 5 minutes next time ;)