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Heres a better summary, from the article: "Crisis measures could see streaming services and games consoles banned, Christmas lights turned off, and all sports s

Heres a better summary, from the article: "Crisis measures could see streaming services and games consoles banned, Christmas lights turned off, and all sports stadiums and leisure facilities closed." Emphasis on crisis. Also, I would assume, in this instance, that fuel prices will be exorbitant, so nonessential gas-powered journeys will be curtailed by default.

iso1631 4y ago
> Christmas lights turned off Cooking a single baked potato in the oven uses more power than my christmas lights for the entire season. Meanwhile there's still a bunch of (mainly old) people bemoaning the lack of 100W incandescent bulbs.
- Volundr 4y ago
  I'm not sure what point your trying to make. It makes sense to ban Christmas lights and not cooking, even if cooking requires more power. Cooking is maybe not technically required to eat, but it's about as close to an essential use of power as you can get next to heating. And I'm sure those same people will bemoan the lack of Christmas lights too.
  - nullish_signal 4y ago
    Next you'll say the Family unit is "non-essential" and can be banned
    - Volundr 4y ago
      Huh? I don't understand what you are implying.
  - iso1631 4y ago
    Who are you to determine that using 1kWh for an evening of TV and 500Wh baking a potato is more essential than me using 70Wh cooking my potato in a microwave and 20Wh reading a book while looking at some nice christmas lights. If we want to ration electric use, increase the costs. Add say 50c/kWh, and let people determine what they want to reduce. If we want to ensure people can still use an essential amount, say 10kWh a day or whatever, give everyone €150 a month to pay the extra costs, funded from the extra costs of those choosing to run incandescent light bulbs. In the UK we did the complete opposite, we chose to subsidise electric consumption.
    - Volundr 4y ago
      > Who are you to determine that using 1kWh for an evening of TV and 500Wh baking a potato is more essential than me using 70Wh cooking my potato in a microwave and 20Wh reading a book while looking at some nice christmas lights. Me? I'm no one, and did not attempt to. I only pointed out that the comparison to cooking and having Christmas lights is nonsensical, given the clear difference in impacts not eating vs not looking at pretty lights once a year has on ones health. As for if disallowing Christmas lights makes any sense in a power crisis, well it'd take more research than I have any interest in doing to answer that question, so I offer no opinion, beyond noting that a surprising number of Christmas lights are incandescence still, so the impact might be larger than you'd assume, and every little bit helps. As for using market prices to solve everything that ensures the rich feel no restrictions while everyone else does. If your OK with that is up to you.

iso1631 4y ago

> Christmas lights turned off Cooking a single baked potato in the oven uses more power than my christmas lights for the entire season. Meanwhile there's still a bunch of (mainly old) people bemoaning the lack of 100W incandescent bulbs.

Volundr 4y ago
I'm not sure what point your trying to make. It makes sense to ban Christmas lights and not cooking, even if cooking requires more power. Cooking is maybe not technically required to eat, but it's about as close to an essential use of power as you can get next to heating. And I'm sure those same people will bemoan the lack of Christmas lights too.
- nullish_signal 4y ago
  Next you'll say the Family unit is "non-essential" and can be banned
  - Volundr 4y ago
    Huh? I don't understand what you are implying.
- iso1631 4y ago
  Who are you to determine that using 1kWh for an evening of TV and 500Wh baking a potato is more essential than me using 70Wh cooking my potato in a microwave and 20Wh reading a book while looking at some nice christmas lights. If we want to ration electric use, increase the costs. Add say 50c/kWh, and let people determine what they want to reduce. If we want to ensure people can still use an essential amount, say 10kWh a day or whatever, give everyone €150 a month to pay the extra costs, funded from the extra costs of those choosing to run incandescent light bulbs. In the UK we did the complete opposite, we chose to subsidise electric consumption.
  - Volundr 4y ago
    > Who are you to determine that using 1kWh for an evening of TV and 500Wh baking a potato is more essential than me using 70Wh cooking my potato in a microwave and 20Wh reading a book while looking at some nice christmas lights. Me? I'm no one, and did not attempt to. I only pointed out that the comparison to cooking and having Christmas lights is nonsensical, given the clear difference in impacts not eating vs not looking at pretty lights once a year has on ones health. As for if disallowing Christmas lights makes any sense in a power crisis, well it'd take more research than I have any interest in doing to answer that question, so I offer no opinion, beyond noting that a surprising number of Christmas lights are incandescence still, so the impact might be larger than you'd assume, and every little bit helps. As for using market prices to solve everything that ensures the rich feel no restrictions while everyone else does. If your OK with that is up to you.