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Have you tried it? Last night I prompted it with a sample data file and it normalized it into a star schema and output the DDL for a theoretical data warehouse

Have you tried it? Last night I prompted it with a sample data file and it normalized it into a star schema and output the DDL for a theoretical data warehouse. I then was able to ask it questions about specific design choices. In comparison to that, sounds like you are mindlessly complaining about something you’d rather not understand.

joegahona 4y ago
Your reply sounds harsh, but it's valid -- I had the same reaction. I'm tired of seeing people posting screenshots of their conversations, and I noticed it was souring me on the technology as a whole... but then I realized that I hadn't actually tried it yet.
- dougmwne 4y ago
  Sorry yes it was harsh, and I did not mean it personally, but that it’s pretty common for people to complain about things they don’t understand, and I saw that in evidence in OP. There are legitimate reasons we should temper the hyped and expectations, but “I want my next dose of novelty” is not one of the stronger ones.
djaychela 4y ago
I've only tried it once, the other day. I asked it how I could improve my AoC day 4 Python code. It responsed with three points and potential modified code. Its understanding of the code I had written was impressive - it noticed I was looking for overlaps between two sets of data, and it made three suggestions for improvement. All of them looked great, but didn't work when tested. One worked when I changed it (having been pointed in the right direction), the other two just didn't work better than what I'd written, and were moot in terms of improvement. However, what I did notice was its comments to go along with the code were authoritative in tone, and I felt like I'd been schooled by a grand master. But that wasn't the case - it had a hit with one and a miss with the other two. I got the feeling it was like a certain kind of salesman; loud, confident, but in this case wrong. Good job I checked the code it came up with, otherwise I would have felt pretty bad.
- dougmwne 4y ago
  This is very fair and I have similar feelings about the accuracy and false confidence. Looking at your experience, the outcome is still impressive. You got 3 new solutions that you were able to get working with some tweaking and one of them was an improvement. Sounds like working with an experienced teammate who also makes mistakes but improves your code in the end with a new perspective and insight. Like… damn, this is all next word text prediction?
  - pritambaral 4y ago
    > You got 3 new solutions that you were able to get working with some tweaking and one of them was an improvement. >> All of them looked great, but didn't work when tested. One worked when I changed it (having been pointed in the right direction), the other two just didn't work better than what I'd written, and were moot in terms of improvement.
- shadowofneptune 4y ago
  This behavior has been called 'confabulation,' and I think the name fits well. Other people call it 'hallucination.' Confabulation in people occurs after brain damage or dementia. They make stuff up while being convinced it was a memory of theirs. I haven't seen a model yet that rejects unlikely matches when it runs out of good material, it could make it more useful.
Herbstluft 4y ago
> you are mindlessly complaining about something you’d rather not understand Why are slight variations of this sentence the new mantra of every single hyped piece of tech? Fanboys said the exact same thing when the first oculus dev kits shipped. Not super mega hyped? Oh you just don't understand it, it will change the world once it hits the market. Cryptobros are preaching the "you just don't understand it" prayer to the extreme. And according to silicon Valley culture and tech news we have "disrupting" and "revolutionizing" tech coming every few minutes... Yes Chatgpt is very impressive, but why would I accuse people that don't run into the street to dance and praise its arrival of not understanding it? We should stop treating tech like religion...
- goatlover 4y ago
  Remember when everyone was going to be 3D printing their stuff instead of going to the store or ordering online? Yeah, that didn't pan out.

joegahona 4y ago

Your reply sounds harsh, but it's valid -- I had the same reaction. I'm tired of seeing people posting screenshots of their conversations, and I noticed it was souring me on the technology as a whole... but then I realized that I hadn't actually tried it yet.

dougmwne 4y ago
Sorry yes it was harsh, and I did not mean it personally, but that it’s pretty common for people to complain about things they don’t understand, and I saw that in evidence in OP. There are legitimate reasons we should temper the hyped and expectations, but “I want my next dose of novelty” is not one of the stronger ones.

djaychela 4y ago

I've only tried it once, the other day. I asked it how I could improve my AoC day 4 Python code. It responsed with three points and potential modified code. Its understanding of the code I had written was impressive - it noticed I was looking for overlaps between two sets of data, and it made three suggestions for improvement. All of them looked great, but didn't work when tested. One worked when I changed it (having been pointed in the right direction), the other two just didn't work better than what I'd written, and were moot in terms of improvement. However, what I did notice was its comments to go along with the code were authoritative in tone, and I felt like I'd been schooled by a grand master. But that wasn't the case - it had a hit with one and a miss with the other two. I got the feeling it was like a certain kind of salesman; loud, confident, but in this case wrong. Good job I checked the code it came up with, otherwise I would have felt pretty bad.

dougmwne 4y ago
This is very fair and I have similar feelings about the accuracy and false confidence. Looking at your experience, the outcome is still impressive. You got 3 new solutions that you were able to get working with some tweaking and one of them was an improvement. Sounds like working with an experienced teammate who also makes mistakes but improves your code in the end with a new perspective and insight. Like… damn, this is all next word text prediction?
- pritambaral 4y ago
  > You got 3 new solutions that you were able to get working with some tweaking and one of them was an improvement. >> All of them looked great, but didn't work when tested. One worked when I changed it (having been pointed in the right direction), the other two just didn't work better than what I'd written, and were moot in terms of improvement.
shadowofneptune 4y ago
This behavior has been called 'confabulation,' and I think the name fits well. Other people call it 'hallucination.' Confabulation in people occurs after brain damage or dementia. They make stuff up while being convinced it was a memory of theirs. I haven't seen a model yet that rejects unlikely matches when it runs out of good material, it could make it more useful.

Herbstluft 4y ago

> you are mindlessly complaining about something you’d rather not understand Why are slight variations of this sentence the new mantra of every single hyped piece of tech? Fanboys said the exact same thing when the first oculus dev kits shipped. Not super mega hyped? Oh you just don't understand it, it will change the world once it hits the market. Cryptobros are preaching the "you just don't understand it" prayer to the extreme. And according to silicon Valley culture and tech news we have "disrupting" and "revolutionizing" tech coming every few minutes... Yes Chatgpt is very impressive, but why would I accuse people that don't run into the street to dance and praise its arrival of not understanding it? We should stop treating tech like religion...

goatlover 4y ago
Remember when everyone was going to be 3D printing their stuff instead of going to the store or ordering online? Yeah, that didn't pan out.