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It's funny because in my family everyone has kids. The reason being it's the only way to move out of your parents home because we don't have rich parents and no

by kypro 4y ago

It's funny because in my family everyone has kids. The reason being it's the only way to move out of your parents home because we don't have rich parents and no one's buying a home and affording a kid with a working class job. > Babies are a huge opportunity cost. Financially speaking, they are like winning the lottery but backwards. I can only assume OP is talking about people who work here? Here in the UK if you don't work you're fast-tracked a home for having a kid and if you have a few you're generally given a very nice 3 bed house so I'm not sure this applies generally. Typically you're very poor you're much better off for having a kid here. I'd personally love a kid or two or three. My girlfriend too. And it upsets me deeply that I'll probably never be able to afford to have one. It's just so hard to afford a home, taxes, bills, student loans and all the costs of a kid on top of that. I've considered just giving up and going on benefits more times than I care to admit, but I think we both agree that wouldn't be the life we want either. I don't want support, but the one thing that annoys me is how I know pensioners living in 5 bed homes who are receiving state pensions which unlike my salary goes up in line with inflation, while receiving help for energy bills and getting a host of other perks like discounted bus tickets, etc. The fact the only people I know with homes are 60+ or on benefits seems weird and deeply immoral to me. Literally all my friends who work are in their 30s and living with there parents while my sister is a single mum in her 20s and somehow has her own house and a BMW (also partly given to her by the government). If we care to solve the birth rate problem it seems to me prioritising homes and resources for working families instead of the unemployed and pensioners would be the way to go. Sorry for ranting, and I know I've brought this up before. But I feel this is the most important issue of my generation and no one is seriously discussing it. Happy to receive insults about how I don't care about the elderly and poor people now.

achenet 4y ago
have you considered moving to another country? If the issue is bad housing market and government policies, you'll be happy to hear that there are probably better options elsewhere. The benefits that pay for that free housing comes from your taxes, if the system seems unfair, there is no reason for you to participate, emigrate to Canada/Australia, or even somewhere more exotic if you're feeling brave.
- kypro 4y ago
  It's funny you say that because we had this conversation just last weekend. I think it's fair to say we're seriously considering it now because we're both extremely unhappy here. Obviously we don't want to leave though because at the end of the day this is our home and it will always be where the people we love are. But I think we both agree we're getting to the point where we really have no choice if we want the live the life we want. Honestly the main blocker is just that the kids in my family have really crappy parents (most are prostitutes, drug dealers, or drug addicts) so we kind of act as parents. They're my family and I love them, but they're honestly the worst parents anyone could possibly have. In recent years we've had kids get falsely diagnosed with various illnesses, get expelled from school, have various dental issues, get trouble with the law, drug abuse, etc. We basically have act as the adults and be there for them because no one else is. If they have parent teacher days, it's not the parents who go, it's us. If they're suck on homework we're the ones who help them. If they're being drugged, we're the ones who step in to stop it. And it's the smaller things that I think are important, like when they're boasting about their dad stealing them a bike for their birthday, explain why that's wrong, just dumb stuff like that. But still, I think we both know we shouldn't be this involved, but if we don't we know we'll fail them. So you know, it's hard... Recently though my girlfriend suggested it could work if she could come home once month just to keep an eye on things, but I think that might turn out more difficult that it sounds. If we're needed, we're needed. We can't wait until the end of the month to catch a flight.

by kypro 4y ago

achenet 4y ago

have you considered moving to another country? If the issue is bad housing market and government policies, you'll be happy to hear that there are probably better options elsewhere. The benefits that pay for that free housing comes from your taxes, if the system seems unfair, there is no reason for you to participate, emigrate to Canada/Australia, or even somewhere more exotic if you're feeling brave.

kypro 4y ago
It's funny you say that because we had this conversation just last weekend. I think it's fair to say we're seriously considering it now because we're both extremely unhappy here. Obviously we don't want to leave though because at the end of the day this is our home and it will always be where the people we love are. But I think we both agree we're getting to the point where we really have no choice if we want the live the life we want. Honestly the main blocker is just that the kids in my family have really crappy parents (most are prostitutes, drug dealers, or drug addicts) so we kind of act as parents. They're my family and I love them, but they're honestly the worst parents anyone could possibly have. In recent years we've had kids get falsely diagnosed with various illnesses, get expelled from school, have various dental issues, get trouble with the law, drug abuse, etc. We basically have act as the adults and be there for them because no one else is. If they have parent teacher days, it's not the parents who go, it's us. If they're suck on homework we're the ones who help them. If they're being drugged, we're the ones who step in to stop it. And it's the smaller things that I think are important, like when they're boasting about their dad stealing them a bike for their birthday, explain why that's wrong, just dumb stuff like that. But still, I think we both know we shouldn't be this involved, but if we don't we know we'll fail them. So you know, it's hard... Recently though my girlfriend suggested it could work if she could come home once month just to keep an eye on things, but I think that might turn out more difficult that it sounds. If we're needed, we're needed. We can't wait until the end of the month to catch a flight.