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Hi, could you tell me the reason this post was quarantined off the front page, title changed (I assume to better match the intent) and then buried later? Was th

Hi, could you tell me the reason this post was quarantined off the front page, title changed (I assume to better match the intent) and then buried later? Was this me violating a policy I didn't consider, automod or faster decay due to me being a green account or manual moderation? Would be nice to know why it happened, it seemed people were very engaged in a more or less healthy debate. I understand this is not too unique or novel (basically Copilot for your terminal) but the contextualization with ChatGPT seems to be specifically reminiscent of Sci-Fi AI concepts that are more tangible to people. Thanks for any feedback!

dang 4y ago
We took Show HN off the title because this post wasn't a valid Show HN—in fact it made a point of not being tryable by the reader. See https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html. In that sense, yes, you broke a rule. But not otherwise. We downweighted the thread because ChatGPT is the supernova of the moment, exploding and filling every corner of HN. In such cases, we downweight most follow-up posts. We're trying to find a middle ground that leaves room for significant new information without being so extreme that the site is completely dominated by a single theme. One sign that the needle is in the red is when the site starts to break out with immune reactions like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33880024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33880024 (see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33888500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33888500 in that thread). The test for whether a post is a follow-up vs. a fresh story is: can it support a substantively different thread than previous threads in the same sequence? Looking through the comments of this one, it's clear that the answer is no: they are almost all (maybe even 100%) generic and could appear in any place with the word "ChatGPT" nearby. That's not your fault, but it's moderation's responsibility to look out for the global state. I know it sucks when it's your post that gets optimized down for this reason but if you consider the core principles that we're optimizing for intellectual curiosity [1] and curiosity withers under repetition [2], it should be clear why we don't have much choice. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20repetition%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
- greshake 4y ago
  Thank you for the detailed response, appreciate it. I support the approach! Just wish there was an easy way to tell what's going on.
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dang 4y ago

We took Show HN off the title because this post wasn't a valid Show HN—in fact it made a point of not being tryable by the reader. See https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html. In that sense, yes, you broke a rule. But not otherwise. We downweighted the thread because ChatGPT is the supernova of the moment, exploding and filling every corner of HN. In such cases, we downweight most follow-up posts. We're trying to find a middle ground that leaves room for significant new information without being so extreme that the site is completely dominated by a single theme. One sign that the needle is in the red is when the site starts to break out with immune reactions like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33880024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33880024 (see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33888500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33888500 in that thread). The test for whether a post is a follow-up vs. a fresh story is: can it support a substantively different thread than previous threads in the same sequence? Looking through the comments of this one, it's clear that the answer is no: they are almost all (maybe even 100%) generic and could appear in any place with the word "ChatGPT" nearby. That's not your fault, but it's moderation's responsibility to look out for the global state. I know it sucks when it's your post that gets optimized down for this reason but if you consider the core principles that we're optimizing for intellectual curiosity [1] and curiosity withers under repetition [2], it should be clear why we don't have much choice. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... [2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20repetition%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

greshake 4y ago
Thank you for the detailed response, appreciate it. I support the approach! Just wish there was an easy way to tell what's going on.
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