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>reality requires exploration to be known, understood, and then predicted which happens with increased difficulty in a society that decrees certain areas taboo

by boppo1 4y ago

>reality requires exploration to be known, understood, and then predicted which happens with increased difficulty in a society that decrees certain areas taboo or against their common morals That's an awfully conservative sounding description these days.

brookst 4y ago
Only because conservatives have adopted the language of persecution because they saw liberals using it effectively. “My cis-male theologically divergent heirloom belief system demands I burn the gays, and I am being oppressed!”
- tomrod 4y ago
  I disagree that all conservative critiques of universities philosophical and political bends are superfluous. I agree that most are, especially as a propaganda-driven meme, but not all. You _need_ second order diversity of ideas, which tends to be achieved by the first order diversity of background, in order to flourish. Subject to paradox of tolerance criteria, an institute of learning and research should allow academic freedom but not necessarily academic safety. Bad ideas are bad!
  - brookst 4y ago
    > I disagree that all conservative critiques of universities philosophical and political bends are superfluous. Well you just obliterated that straw man. > You _need_ second order diversity of ideas, which tends to be achieved by the first order diversity of background, in order to flourish That I 100% agree with. But that is not a conservative position, at least for any normal definition of conservative. Conservatives fought school desegregation, fight immigration, and fight admissions policies that aim to provide that diversity of background. Please don't infer my opinions from that statement. Affirmative action-like policies especially are very complicated and I don't have an easy dontrinaire answer. But the fact is conservatives are generally much less interested in diversity than liberals (see: gender/racial mix of the parties in congress, or their judicial nominees).

by boppo1 4y ago

brookst 4y ago

Only because conservatives have adopted the language of persecution because they saw liberals using it effectively. “My cis-male theologically divergent heirloom belief system demands I burn the gays, and I am being oppressed!”

tomrod 4y ago
I disagree that all conservative critiques of universities philosophical and political bends are superfluous. I agree that most are, especially as a propaganda-driven meme, but not all. You _need_ second order diversity of ideas, which tends to be achieved by the first order diversity of background, in order to flourish. Subject to paradox of tolerance criteria, an institute of learning and research should allow academic freedom but not necessarily academic safety. Bad ideas are bad!
- brookst 4y ago
  > I disagree that all conservative critiques of universities philosophical and political bends are superfluous. Well you just obliterated that straw man. > You _need_ second order diversity of ideas, which tends to be achieved by the first order diversity of background, in order to flourish That I 100% agree with. But that is not a conservative position, at least for any normal definition of conservative. Conservatives fought school desegregation, fight immigration, and fight admissions policies that aim to provide that diversity of background. Please don't infer my opinions from that statement. Affirmative action-like policies especially are very complicated and I don't have an easy dontrinaire answer. But the fact is conservatives are generally much less interested in diversity than liberals (see: gender/racial mix of the parties in congress, or their judicial nominees).