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This is alarmist BS. Facebook group fodder. “Humans have working mirror neurons” could have been the headline. All of you futurists who have slipped down the s
by reilly3000 4y ago
This is alarmist BS. Facebook group fodder. “Humans have working mirror neurons” could have been the headline.
All of you futurists who have slipped down the slope are worried about media spreading “sociogenic illness”. Of course media is powerful. It always has been. There has been about 75 years of fears and schemes about using TV to mass hypnotize its watchers. The same with radio before it.
What is happening is mass unstructured clustering by social algos, specifically TikTok. Historically content and ad algorithms have focused on contextual relevance with structured categories. Graphs have extended that to included social context. TikTok has novel input parameters about user behavior. There have been many reports that this unstructured clustering is surfacing niche medical diagnoses regularly.
A lot of neurodivergent traits have historically been under diagnosed for the same goddamn ignorance as OP’s piece: “it’s just attention seeking”. This type of dismissal by parents, teachers, and doctors alike have lead to millions of people leading shorter, harder lives. ADHD, Autism, Tourette’s, Bipolar, schizophrenia, etc are present in larger numbers than are diagnosed. Often time these lifelong genetic differences lead to 10x+ higher suicide rates, inability to sustain work, and myriad health issues. It’s really common that mental health issues that don’t result in property damage just get ignored, downplayed, or under treated even if acknowledged.
I was diagnosed with ADHD at age 29. Having that information combined with medication, therapy, and exercise has changed my life for the better dramatically. If TikTok was the surface where I discovered that, I would have likely been dismissed or even openly mocked by my doctors, and continued with a life of suffering or worse.
By the way, it seems people cited in the article are experiencing a form of Tourette’s syndrome that is a typical neurological trait associated with other pathology. Echolalia has far less cultural awareness, but accurate describes the behavior: “Echolalia is not only associated with Autism, but also with several other conditions, including congenital blindness, intellectual disability, developmental delay, language delay, Tourette's syndrome, schizophrenia and others.” it’s not just swear words like on TV. My child does this. What happened to start as a YouTube ad for “Raid Shadow Legends” turned into a joke punchline, turned into a phrase that they cannot stop themselves from saying compulsively at odd times, after multiple years. It’s sub-clinical by itself, but is consistent with the diagnosis they do have.
This article is red meat, BS fear bait at best, dangerous at worst. To the extent content like this actually promotes diagnosis denial, it’s complicit in very literal harm of patients and those around them.
- denton-scratch 4y ago> these lifelong genetic differences I'm not aware of convincing evidence that bipolar and schizophrenia are of genetic origin (other than that schizophrenia sometimes runs in families). There are serious people that insist that they originate in childhood trauma. And since childhood trauma also sometimes runs in families, family histories of schizophrenia aren't that convincing either.
- waterhouse 4y agoWiki says "Genetic factors account for about 70–90% of the risk of developing bipolar disorder." https://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/resources-support/bipolar-disorder/causes/ https://www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/resources-support/bipol... says 80%, and says "If one parent has bipolar disorder, there’s a 10% chance that their child will develop the illness. / If both parents have bipolar disorder, the likelihood of their child developing bipolar disorder rises to 40%." One of the cited papers is "Family, twin, and adoption studies of bipolar disorder". Link that gives only the abstract: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14601036/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14601036/ I haven't dug into the paper yet, but there's a starting point. Edit: The paper says "More recent (and rigorous) studies that have compared concordance rates specifically of bipolar disorder among MZ [monozygotic] and DZ [dizygotic] twin pairs are summarized in table 2." The table shows four studies that gave concordances of 0.00-0.08 for dizygotic twins, and 0.36-0.75 for monozygotic twins.
- denton-scratch 4y ago> If both parents have bipolar disorder, the likelihood of their child developing bipolar disorder rises to 40% If both parents were traumatized as kids, and childhood trauma runs in families, then that adds no weight to claims that the disorder is genetic. To show a genetic origin, you have to point to a gene, not a pile of statistics.
- waterhouse 4y agoDid you see the part about monozygotic vs dizygotic twins? Do you have any explanation other than genetics for it? For example, do you think parents are 4.5-9x more likely to traumatize both their twin children if the twins are identical instead of fraternal?