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Less than 1%. That's the number of people who detransition simply because they didn't feel it was the right thing for them. Of the less than 2% of detransition

Less than 1%. That's the number of people who detransition simply because they didn't feel it was the right thing for them. Of the less than 2% of detransitioners overall, the vast majority names reasons like social pressure, transitioning being too difficult, etc. Dunno what numbers you are talking about, but the ones I know certainly underline gender dysphoria being a very real thing and not some sort of "social contagion", and my personal experience definitely aligns with this as well: I don't know a single trans person who seems to regret transitioning, but a whole number of trans people who are struggling with the constant hate they get, fuelled in part by this sort of rhetoric. And since the article in one of the replies mentioned puberty blockers: They are 1. entirely reversible, 2. routinely prescribed to cis children for other medical reasons and 3. unlike these blockers, puberty is not reversible. Can I change your mind, even if just a little bit? I don't know; but if you really want to change your mind, start looking closely into the "statistics" of the right. Their misrepresentations are often absurdly superficial. It's all a lie, and the parts that aren't, usually aren't that bad.

brnt 4y ago
> Less than 1%. That's the number of people who detransition simply because they didn't feel it was the right thing for them. About 1% who do so through the hospital procrdures. About a third just stops showing up for followups and hormones. According to the detransitioner, who falls into that category, and has found a small community of similar people, this is what's wrong with the statistic: it's extremely important to not exclude the group that falls of the radar. Since they're not getting hormones anymore, the safest assumption is that they are stopping their transition (because they are) or detransitioning. A third is a very high amount. This is the NL btw.
- DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
  Please share where you got those numbers from, I'm sure there's a good laugh to be had about how anybody got that "one third" figure. A minor side note: Stopping hormones does not mean someone has stopped transitioning or is detransitioning. It just means they've stopped taking hormones. Second side note: Detransitioning doesn't mean the person isn't trans either, it just means they've stopped transitioning. Third side note: Just stopping hormones without talking to your doctor about it is a reeeeally bad idea. I'd be surprised if the number of these "under the radar" people was even on the same level as known detransitioners.
  - brnt 4y ago
    These numbers are published by Dutch health authorities, and confirmed in the article at [1]. Nobody argues trans people should be stopped, but it is argued that mental healthcare preceding such a proces must be significantly improved. A lot of teens are transitioning, and their bad self image and self hate, inflamed by heavy social media use and the extremely well documented adverse effects on mental health of social media, are, it seems, too often channelled into this solution leading to regret later. Improving care is an all-round benefit to them. [1] https://www.hpdetijd.nl/2022-10-31/de-transitie-heeft-mijn-leven-verwoest/ https://www.hpdetijd.nl/2022-10-31/de-transitie-heeft-mijn-l...
    - DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
      I'm not spending money on some pay-walled article in another language; and to be honest, I've seen enough """articles""" on this topic that I wouldn't trust them anyway and jump right to their actual sources. Do you have any actual data to look at?

brnt 4y ago

> Less than 1%. That's the number of people who detransition simply because they didn't feel it was the right thing for them. About 1% who do so through the hospital procrdures. About a third just stops showing up for followups and hormones. According to the detransitioner, who falls into that category, and has found a small community of similar people, this is what's wrong with the statistic: it's extremely important to not exclude the group that falls of the radar. Since they're not getting hormones anymore, the safest assumption is that they are stopping their transition (because they are) or detransitioning. A third is a very high amount. This is the NL btw.

DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
Please share where you got those numbers from, I'm sure there's a good laugh to be had about how anybody got that "one third" figure. A minor side note: Stopping hormones does not mean someone has stopped transitioning or is detransitioning. It just means they've stopped taking hormones. Second side note: Detransitioning doesn't mean the person isn't trans either, it just means they've stopped transitioning. Third side note: Just stopping hormones without talking to your doctor about it is a reeeeally bad idea. I'd be surprised if the number of these "under the radar" people was even on the same level as known detransitioners.
- brnt 4y ago
  These numbers are published by Dutch health authorities, and confirmed in the article at [1]. Nobody argues trans people should be stopped, but it is argued that mental healthcare preceding such a proces must be significantly improved. A lot of teens are transitioning, and their bad self image and self hate, inflamed by heavy social media use and the extremely well documented adverse effects on mental health of social media, are, it seems, too often channelled into this solution leading to regret later. Improving care is an all-round benefit to them. [1] https://www.hpdetijd.nl/2022-10-31/de-transitie-heeft-mijn-leven-verwoest/ https://www.hpdetijd.nl/2022-10-31/de-transitie-heeft-mijn-l...
  - DarkWiiPlayer 4y ago
    I'm not spending money on some pay-walled article in another language; and to be honest, I've seen enough """articles""" on this topic that I wouldn't trust them anyway and jump right to their actual sources. Do you have any actual data to look at?