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I don't understand your point. Are you saying the Ohio company is evil for not putting up a pride flag? Are you saying the Bay-area company isn't evil because

I don't understand your point. Are you saying the Ohio company is evil for not putting up a pride flag? Are you saying the Bay-area company isn't evil because they treated their higher-ranked servants well ?

papandada 4y ago
Not OP, but my read is yes; and no, but why not take evil with better benefits.
- tanseydavid 4y ago
  Because utilitarianism? Just a thought.
P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
seriously, the other poster never stops to consider that the reason people like this CEO are drawing a line in the sand is BECAUSE of people like this poster are running around drawing such conclusions from something as lik a pride flag. What next, is this poster going to take a flamethrower to the anthill in their backyard? Lets see how well that works.
vineyardmike 4y ago
It’s definitely not good for employees to reject calls for things like a pride flag in mass emails to employees. The reasoning, other minorities, explicitly mentioning black minorities, may want attention isn’t a very “not-evil” thing to do. It’s a weird whataboutism that throws black employees under the bus as the ultimate problem they’re trying to avoid. This was in 2017, and not eg during the George Floyd protests, so it was really arbitrary to mention. It’s a flag in an office park, for a month, it has no negative affect to the company except an hour of human effort to put up and take it down. It does have a positive affect for their employees, however. Even if it does “snowball” to other minority groups… really has minimal downsides. What is particularly stunning was the action to email the company to say they wouldn’t put up a flag because black people may get ideas. That’s the action that is hard to understand because it draws attention to a decision that could be made quietly with less negative impact.

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I don't understand your point. Are you saying the Ohio company is evil for not putting up a pride flag? Are you saying the Bay-area company isn't evil because

by mebassett 4y ago

papandada 4y ago
Not OP, but my read is yes; and no, but why not take evil with better benefits.
- tanseydavid 4y ago
  Because utilitarianism? Just a thought.
P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
seriously, the other poster never stops to consider that the reason people like this CEO are drawing a line in the sand is BECAUSE of people like this poster are running around drawing such conclusions from something as lik a pride flag. What next, is this poster going to take a flamethrower to the anthill in their backyard? Lets see how well that works.
vineyardmike 4y ago
It’s definitely not good for employees to reject calls for things like a pride flag in mass emails to employees. The reasoning, other minorities, explicitly mentioning black minorities, may want attention isn’t a very “not-evil” thing to do. It’s a weird whataboutism that throws black employees under the bus as the ultimate problem they’re trying to avoid. This was in 2017, and not eg during the George Floyd protests, so it was really arbitrary to mention. It’s a flag in an office park, for a month, it has no negative affect to the company except an hour of human effort to put up and take it down. It does have a positive affect for their employees, however. Even if it does “snowball” to other minority groups… really has minimal downsides. What is particularly stunning was the action to email the company to say they wouldn’t put up a flag because black people may get ideas. That’s the action that is hard to understand because it draws attention to a decision that could be made quietly with less negative impact.