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> the overhead costs are insanely low and are only one time for deployment with unlimited use, no other cloud deployment platform offers that Every cloud platf

> the overhead costs are insanely low and are only one time for deployment with unlimited use, no other cloud deployment platform offers that Every cloud platform has a free tier that can probably handle the entirety of crypto, and then some. A Raspberry Pi is a more efficient platform that realistically competes with "web3"

yieldcrv 4y ago
everything I wrote was about deploying smart contracts, and on a blockchain that other people want to use nobody cares about the technical feasibility of running a blockchain, development routinely requires local deployments
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > everything I wrote was about deploying smart contracts, and on a blockchain Yup. In a response to "Even if we pretend for a moment that there was some merit to the 'web3 smart contract', by now it should be painfully clear to anyone involved that this is a technological dead end." Of course there's no better platform than "web3" for developers who do the "web3" stuff. "Windows is the best platform to develop apps for Windows". However. As a platform web3 is a failure. And for developers literally everything outside crypto is a better platform. For users, too.
  - yieldcrv 4y ago
    Its cheaper to develop and host your app on and there is consumer demand in applications where the very top of the funnel is a payment Recognizing that makes you way better of a developer and entrepreneur than the 10x coder hunting for exploits and bug bounties, where making money is the goal
    - dmitriid 4y ago
      > Its cheaper to develop and host your app on Cheaper than what? That's the beauty of vague unverifiable statements like "for developers, there is no platform that realistically competes with 'web3 smart contract'." For any counter example you can always say "that's not what I meant" > Recognizing that makes you way better of a developer and entrepreneur than the 10x coder hunting for exploits and bug bounties, where making money is the goal Was this sentence written by ChatGPT?
      - yieldcrv 4y ago
        deploying smart contracts is the same as deploying an application to the cloud with api calls and variable storage the closest I can think of is Firebase or AWS Lambda (or similar compute instance) with some kind of rudimentary database or shoehorned in variable storage. these all charge by number of executions, bandwidth and storage, even geographic location smart contract deployments would be cheaper than that, via a one time cost for the developer, and have unlimited use. it is also convenient and valuable that the smart contract cannot be deplatformed I don't really see Firebase or AWS or other compute instances competing on any of these fronts, but if you know of a counterpoint I would love to check out their pricing and usage page
        dmitriid 4y ago
        So my very first comment remains valid. No idea what you're objecting to.
        yieldcrv 4y ago
        for the level of computation actually occurring I would agree with you, but for the pricing I don't agree with you. smart contracts are read for free and are read just as much as any api or application, whereas reading from my API that's doing nothing would still start charging me, the developer, and not be as cheap and using bare metal I have hosted somewhere or locally would have high maintenance or performance problems just reading and sending responses at the level necessary writing is paid for by the consumers, but again here I agree that this level of activity would fit in the free tiers of cloud services

yieldcrv 4y ago

everything I wrote was about deploying smart contracts, and on a blockchain that other people want to use nobody cares about the technical feasibility of running a blockchain, development routinely requires local deployments

dmitriid 4y ago
> everything I wrote was about deploying smart contracts, and on a blockchain Yup. In a response to "Even if we pretend for a moment that there was some merit to the 'web3 smart contract', by now it should be painfully clear to anyone involved that this is a technological dead end." Of course there's no better platform than "web3" for developers who do the "web3" stuff. "Windows is the best platform to develop apps for Windows". However. As a platform web3 is a failure. And for developers literally everything outside crypto is a better platform. For users, too.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  Its cheaper to develop and host your app on and there is consumer demand in applications where the very top of the funnel is a payment Recognizing that makes you way better of a developer and entrepreneur than the 10x coder hunting for exploits and bug bounties, where making money is the goal
  - dmitriid 4y ago
    > Its cheaper to develop and host your app on Cheaper than what? That's the beauty of vague unverifiable statements like "for developers, there is no platform that realistically competes with 'web3 smart contract'." For any counter example you can always say "that's not what I meant" > Recognizing that makes you way better of a developer and entrepreneur than the 10x coder hunting for exploits and bug bounties, where making money is the goal Was this sentence written by ChatGPT?
    - yieldcrv 4y ago
      deploying smart contracts is the same as deploying an application to the cloud with api calls and variable storage the closest I can think of is Firebase or AWS Lambda (or similar compute instance) with some kind of rudimentary database or shoehorned in variable storage. these all charge by number of executions, bandwidth and storage, even geographic location smart contract deployments would be cheaper than that, via a one time cost for the developer, and have unlimited use. it is also convenient and valuable that the smart contract cannot be deplatformed I don't really see Firebase or AWS or other compute instances competing on any of these fronts, but if you know of a counterpoint I would love to check out their pricing and usage page
      - dmitriid 4y ago
        So my very first comment remains valid. No idea what you're objecting to.
        yieldcrv 4y ago
        for the level of computation actually occurring I would agree with you, but for the pricing I don't agree with you. smart contracts are read for free and are read just as much as any api or application, whereas reading from my API that's doing nothing would still start charging me, the developer, and not be as cheap and using bare metal I have hosted somewhere or locally would have high maintenance or performance problems just reading and sending responses at the level necessary writing is paid for by the consumers, but again here I agree that this level of activity would fit in the free tiers of cloud services