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This reminds me a few years ago on a family holiday to malaysia I was sharing the room with my 10 year old cousin. I go downstairs to smoke suddenly his father

This reminds me a few years ago on a family holiday to malaysia I was sharing the room with my 10 year old cousin. I go downstairs to smoke suddenly his father calls me and tells me that my cousin called him crying in pitch black room as the lights went off. As he was lying on the bed reading a book motion censors did not detect any movement and the power cut off. Luckily he had his phone with him otherwise he would have been scarred for life. Why the fuck would they use motion censor for the light I would understand if they use it for the aircon or something but even then with the key card in the slot why would they set it like that.

tasuki 4y ago
> Luckily he had his phone with him otherwise he would have been scarred for life. From the lights turning off? A ten year old?
- giraffe_lady 4y ago
  Could be just a hyperbolic turn of phrase. The commenter may not be a native english speaker. The kid may have a developmental disability or a specific recent trauma related to this. Who fucking knows, it's none of our business. The story contributes to the discussion and makes its point either which way, what do you get from calling out this detail like this?
  - coldtea 4y ago
    The parent may have a condition making him nitpicky, curious, and blunt (like Aspergers) or a specific professional or other curiosity related to this. Who fucking knows, what do you get from calling him out like this? See how it goes both ways?
    - tasuki 4y ago
      Hehe, I very much do have a condition making me nitpicky and excessively curious! Thank you, your comment made me smile :)
    - giraffe_lady 4y ago
      FWIW I do have that condition as well, though it isn't usually called that these days. What I gain from this is trying to move us away from comments that serve no purpose other than copy-editing each other and discouraging people from posting unless they can be confident in their adherence to the unwritten HN style guides. Which many people never can be, for various reasons. If they had said that as part of a comment that overall served a different purpose I wouldn't have said anything. But it added nothing to this discussion except reinforcing the atmosphere that comments must be finely tuned to be taken seriously.
      - coldtea 4y ago
        Yeah, the discussion could be kept more to the point. But it was a legitimate question for a sidenote - it's not like every subthread has to revolve around the original topic. >FWIW I do have that condition as well, though it isn't usually called that these days I know, never cared much for the politically and financially motivated rename, that imho blurs the condition across a larger area, instead of defining it better.
        giraffe_lady 4y ago
        > Asperger was a member of a seven-member commission that was to categorize 200 disabled children according to their "educational ability" to decide their fate. 35 children were classified as "hopeless cases" and transferred to Spiegelgrund, where they all died. He was part of the legitimization of the murders and as an expert contributed to their categorization into "usefulness levels". In this case since the guy it was named after would have killed me given the choice, I'm glad they renamed it. Good info about where you stand though, thank you.
        coldtea 4y ago
        >Good info about where you stand though, thank you. You appear to stand in a worse place, implying people are Nazis because they're OK with using the traditional name for a condition, just because the person who did studied it had connections to them. Your quick judgement of others, is worse than that - more Nazi-like in practical action, than some "association by name used for a condition" (which is no associatation at all). If I got power I'd be OK with some tainted names. If you got power you'd classify people as enemies, or worse, based on such trivial matters as whether they prefer the older established name for a condition (and don't particularly care if we don't retroactively erase the person who discovered it from medical history for his crimes 80 years after the fact).
- xbmcuser 4y ago
  But the point of the anecdotal story was using automation wrongly why would you care about the turn of phrase I used
  - tasuki 4y ago
    Sure agreed that automation is often pointless and more harmful than helpful. I'm just surprised you're making such a fuss about a ten year old in a dark room.
    - tharne 4y ago
      > I'm just surprised you're making such a fuss about a ten year old in a dark room. Pretty sure that was just being used as an example to underscore a broader point. No need to nitpick.
- xbmcuser 4y ago
  So a 10 year old in a foreign country in a room alone in pitch black dark for an hour or so won't get scared?. The room was pitch black we had checked in an hour or so ago so he was not even sure of where anything was in the room was. Though I confess part of the reason was his older siblings and cousins had been telling ghost stories the previous night.
  - tasuki 4y ago
    You said "I go downstairs to smoke" and now you say "for an hour or so". I don't know your smoking habits, but isn't this a little unusual? I don't think I've ever been in a "pitch black" hotel room. I'd bet there was light enough for him to start seeing just fine after five minutes. The ghost stories, sure. But then he's scarred for life more by the ghost stories rather than by the lights turning off...

tasuki 4y ago

> Luckily he had his phone with him otherwise he would have been scarred for life. From the lights turning off? A ten year old?

giraffe_lady 4y ago
Could be just a hyperbolic turn of phrase. The commenter may not be a native english speaker. The kid may have a developmental disability or a specific recent trauma related to this. Who fucking knows, it's none of our business. The story contributes to the discussion and makes its point either which way, what do you get from calling out this detail like this?
- coldtea 4y ago
  The parent may have a condition making him nitpicky, curious, and blunt (like Aspergers) or a specific professional or other curiosity related to this. Who fucking knows, what do you get from calling him out like this? See how it goes both ways?
  - tasuki 4y ago
    Hehe, I very much do have a condition making me nitpicky and excessively curious! Thank you, your comment made me smile :)
  - giraffe_lady 4y ago
    FWIW I do have that condition as well, though it isn't usually called that these days. What I gain from this is trying to move us away from comments that serve no purpose other than copy-editing each other and discouraging people from posting unless they can be confident in their adherence to the unwritten HN style guides. Which many people never can be, for various reasons. If they had said that as part of a comment that overall served a different purpose I wouldn't have said anything. But it added nothing to this discussion except reinforcing the atmosphere that comments must be finely tuned to be taken seriously.
    - coldtea 4y ago
      Yeah, the discussion could be kept more to the point. But it was a legitimate question for a sidenote - it's not like every subthread has to revolve around the original topic. >FWIW I do have that condition as well, though it isn't usually called that these days I know, never cared much for the politically and financially motivated rename, that imho blurs the condition across a larger area, instead of defining it better.
      - giraffe_lady 4y ago
        > Asperger was a member of a seven-member commission that was to categorize 200 disabled children according to their "educational ability" to decide their fate. 35 children were classified as "hopeless cases" and transferred to Spiegelgrund, where they all died. He was part of the legitimization of the murders and as an expert contributed to their categorization into "usefulness levels". In this case since the guy it was named after would have killed me given the choice, I'm glad they renamed it. Good info about where you stand though, thank you.
        coldtea 4y ago
        >Good info about where you stand though, thank you. You appear to stand in a worse place, implying people are Nazis because they're OK with using the traditional name for a condition, just because the person who did studied it had connections to them. Your quick judgement of others, is worse than that - more Nazi-like in practical action, than some "association by name used for a condition" (which is no associatation at all). If I got power I'd be OK with some tainted names. If you got power you'd classify people as enemies, or worse, based on such trivial matters as whether they prefer the older established name for a condition (and don't particularly care if we don't retroactively erase the person who discovered it from medical history for his crimes 80 years after the fact).
xbmcuser 4y ago
But the point of the anecdotal story was using automation wrongly why would you care about the turn of phrase I used
- tasuki 4y ago
  Sure agreed that automation is often pointless and more harmful than helpful. I'm just surprised you're making such a fuss about a ten year old in a dark room.
  - tharne 4y ago
    > I'm just surprised you're making such a fuss about a ten year old in a dark room. Pretty sure that was just being used as an example to underscore a broader point. No need to nitpick.
xbmcuser 4y ago
So a 10 year old in a foreign country in a room alone in pitch black dark for an hour or so won't get scared?. The room was pitch black we had checked in an hour or so ago so he was not even sure of where anything was in the room was. Though I confess part of the reason was his older siblings and cousins had been telling ghost stories the previous night.
- tasuki 4y ago
  You said "I go downstairs to smoke" and now you say "for an hour or so". I don't know your smoking habits, but isn't this a little unusual? I don't think I've ever been in a "pitch black" hotel room. I'd bet there was light enough for him to start seeing just fine after five minutes. The ghost stories, sure. But then he's scarred for life more by the ghost stories rather than by the lights turning off...