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Hold on, pump the brakes. How do you know what is or isn't on the laptop?

ModernMech 4y ago
The laptop has been in the possession of partisan actors and has been examined forensically. I’m assuming everything and anything on the laptop that could possibly implicate Biden in so much as a parking infraction has been released. If your implying there may be heretofore unreleased information from the laptop, that would be the first time I’ve encountered that notion.
- lazyeye 4y ago
  Here's the reviews of "Laptop from Hell" https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Hell-Hunter-Secrets-President/dp/163758105X#customerReviews https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Hell-Hunter-Secrets-President/...
  - SlickNixon 4y ago
    I appreciate the input, but I'm going to do a heel-face (face-heel?) turn and say that I trust that book about as far as I can throw it. There's an entire industry dedicated to rapidly churning out books on right-wing culture war topics, and the quality tends to be low. I have, in the course of my travels, been told many times that I need to read such-and-such a book on a topic before I can "really have an opinion". I get the taste in my mouth that such books tend to serve a defensive role in conversations (like barbed wire, with a machine gun pointed at it) instead of an educational one, and put the recommendee on the back foot where they're refusing to read a source as offered. It works because--going back to point 1--there's so many books out there that reading them all doesn't scale and never will. They take far, far more than they give. The youtube videos of the genre "three hours of some guy talking into the camera" occupy a similar niche.
    - lazyeye 4y ago
      It sounds to me like you are just providing a rationalisation for a closed mind. There are plenty of smart people on the right, and lots of bad behaviour on the left that needs highlighting (and vice versa). And of course it's only people in opposition that will do this. We can't rely on the media because they are clearly partisan, so to dismiss anything beyond the media leaves you in an information desert basically.
      - SlickNixon 4y ago
        >It sounds to me like you are just providing a rationalisation for a closed mind. Oh no I'm accused of being anti-intellectual. Wait, see: >put the recommendee on the back foot where they're refusing to read a source as offered Let's circle back--did you honestly expect people to buy and read a 224 page book that you couldn't be bothered to summarize (besides touting the Amazon reviews?)? What's the conversion rate on that? Or is it more that you can recommend a book, people don't read it (surprise), and then it's their fault for not finding out the facts?
        lazyeye 4y ago
        Well I dont know what else to say to someone who thinks they are informed, when they aren't and who refuses to look elsewhere. Ok to summarise...(you really have to read the book to get the detail so this is just a skim) Joe Biden home is in Delaware, the US geographical center for businesses that like doing things privately. Joe has operated firmly in the center of this milieu of financially sophisticated elite for decades. Joe Biden likes to pretend he's a man of the people and not interested in financial wealth. I'm "middle-class Joe", "don't fault me because I don't own a single stock or bond" etc.. you get the get the drift. However he lives in a large mansion in Brandywine Valley (home of rich elite), is worth millions of dollars and has a remarkable history of incredibly good real estate investments. Usually buying directly from business people and donors. Note: this is a very typical way for corruption to be completely above board. "I'II give you a million bucks discount on a nice bit of property and you repay the favour when my business needs it". And of course the presented optics are just that Joe is a "really good real estate investor". Circumstantial I guess? But not really to anyone with a bit of commonsense. The rich elite in Delaware are financially sophisticated and used to dealing with power. They know how to move money around and still maintain plausible deniability. I'm sure this kind of "deniable" corruption is common across parties, so I'm not suggesting Joe is unique in this. I am suggesting though that Joe is more than likely just as corrupt as Trump or anyone else. Hunter Biden's career is 100% pure nepotism at every level. His entire history in terms of schools, consecutive board positions etc is due to Joe pulling strings with business people and donors. The Biden family structure has typically been Joe and Hunter's brother Beau (now deceased) sought power and influence whilst it was Hunter's role to "monetise" the influence whilst maintaining a wall of plausible deniability back to the family. Hunter Biden is on record complaining about having to give 50% of his income (millions) to Joe Biden. So this would mean things like Hunter paying for all the upkeep of Joe's mansions etc. There is also evidence of them sharing co-mingled bank accounts. So it seems what happened is that they took their approach they'd been using for decades in Delaware and just went global with their influence-peddling schemes. And Hunter was playing the same role except now on a global scale. This means, for example, forming a business partnership with a Chinese company connected to CCP intelligence for which they were hoping to get 100's of millions. This fell through in the end. I recommend reading a book called "Red-Handed" by Peter Schweizer (yes another "right-wing culture war book"!) where he talks about the well-documented Chinese "elite capture" program where they ensnare foreign elites (business, govt, academia) in lucrative business deals (millions of dollars) to ensure they remain pro-China's interests. Clearly Hunter Biden was a target for this, he has zero relevant experience or track record to justify his involvement in anything beyond organising a drug deal. Hunter Biden's laptop provided clear and direct evidence of the stuff I'm talking about however the story has been suppressed (did I mention the media is garbage?) Hunter Biden's business partner, Tony Bobulinski, has stated that Joe Biden was the effective chairman of the enterprise (just not on paper). Joe was present at multiple meetings (Joe Biden lied about this). Tony Bobulinski also mentioned to Jim Biden (Joe's brother) he was concerned about some of the things they were doing. In reply Jim smirked and commented about "plausible deniability". Tony also took all his evidence to the FBI but they also suppressed the story. Whatever you think of this story, there is certainly enough evidence to justify further investigation and hopefully this will happen next year.

The laptop has been in the possession of partisan actors and has been examined forensically. I’m assuming everything and anything on the laptop that could possibly implicate Biden in so much as a parking infraction has been released. If your implying there may be heretofore unreleased information from the laptop, that would be the first time I’ve encountered that notion.

lazyeye 4y ago
Here's the reviews of "Laptop from Hell" https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Hell-Hunter-Secrets-President/dp/163758105X#customerReviews https://www.amazon.com/Laptop-Hell-Hunter-Secrets-President/...
- SlickNixon 4y ago
  I appreciate the input, but I'm going to do a heel-face (face-heel?) turn and say that I trust that book about as far as I can throw it. There's an entire industry dedicated to rapidly churning out books on right-wing culture war topics, and the quality tends to be low. I have, in the course of my travels, been told many times that I need to read such-and-such a book on a topic before I can "really have an opinion". I get the taste in my mouth that such books tend to serve a defensive role in conversations (like barbed wire, with a machine gun pointed at it) instead of an educational one, and put the recommendee on the back foot where they're refusing to read a source as offered. It works because--going back to point 1--there's so many books out there that reading them all doesn't scale and never will. They take far, far more than they give. The youtube videos of the genre "three hours of some guy talking into the camera" occupy a similar niche.
  - lazyeye 4y ago
    It sounds to me like you are just providing a rationalisation for a closed mind. There are plenty of smart people on the right, and lots of bad behaviour on the left that needs highlighting (and vice versa). And of course it's only people in opposition that will do this. We can't rely on the media because they are clearly partisan, so to dismiss anything beyond the media leaves you in an information desert basically.
    - SlickNixon 4y ago
      >It sounds to me like you are just providing a rationalisation for a closed mind. Oh no I'm accused of being anti-intellectual. Wait, see: >put the recommendee on the back foot where they're refusing to read a source as offered Let's circle back--did you honestly expect people to buy and read a 224 page book that you couldn't be bothered to summarize (besides touting the Amazon reviews?)? What's the conversion rate on that? Or is it more that you can recommend a book, people don't read it (surprise), and then it's their fault for not finding out the facts?
      - lazyeye 4y ago
        Well I dont know what else to say to someone who thinks they are informed, when they aren't and who refuses to look elsewhere. Ok to summarise...(you really have to read the book to get the detail so this is just a skim) Joe Biden home is in Delaware, the US geographical center for businesses that like doing things privately. Joe has operated firmly in the center of this milieu of financially sophisticated elite for decades. Joe Biden likes to pretend he's a man of the people and not interested in financial wealth. I'm "middle-class Joe", "don't fault me because I don't own a single stock or bond" etc.. you get the get the drift. However he lives in a large mansion in Brandywine Valley (home of rich elite), is worth millions of dollars and has a remarkable history of incredibly good real estate investments. Usually buying directly from business people and donors. Note: this is a very typical way for corruption to be completely above board. "I'II give you a million bucks discount on a nice bit of property and you repay the favour when my business needs it". And of course the presented optics are just that Joe is a "really good real estate investor". Circumstantial I guess? But not really to anyone with a bit of commonsense. The rich elite in Delaware are financially sophisticated and used to dealing with power. They know how to move money around and still maintain plausible deniability. I'm sure this kind of "deniable" corruption is common across parties, so I'm not suggesting Joe is unique in this. I am suggesting though that Joe is more than likely just as corrupt as Trump or anyone else. Hunter Biden's career is 100% pure nepotism at every level. His entire history in terms of schools, consecutive board positions etc is due to Joe pulling strings with business people and donors. The Biden family structure has typically been Joe and Hunter's brother Beau (now deceased) sought power and influence whilst it was Hunter's role to "monetise" the influence whilst maintaining a wall of plausible deniability back to the family. Hunter Biden is on record complaining about having to give 50% of his income (millions) to Joe Biden. So this would mean things like Hunter paying for all the upkeep of Joe's mansions etc. There is also evidence of them sharing co-mingled bank accounts. So it seems what happened is that they took their approach they'd been using for decades in Delaware and just went global with their influence-peddling schemes. And Hunter was playing the same role except now on a global scale. This means, for example, forming a business partnership with a Chinese company connected to CCP intelligence for which they were hoping to get 100's of millions. This fell through in the end. I recommend reading a book called "Red-Handed" by Peter Schweizer (yes another "right-wing culture war book"!) where he talks about the well-documented Chinese "elite capture" program where they ensnare foreign elites (business, govt, academia) in lucrative business deals (millions of dollars) to ensure they remain pro-China's interests. Clearly Hunter Biden was a target for this, he has zero relevant experience or track record to justify his involvement in anything beyond organising a drug deal. Hunter Biden's laptop provided clear and direct evidence of the stuff I'm talking about however the story has been suppressed (did I mention the media is garbage?) Hunter Biden's business partner, Tony Bobulinski, has stated that Joe Biden was the effective chairman of the enterprise (just not on paper). Joe was present at multiple meetings (Joe Biden lied about this). Tony Bobulinski also mentioned to Jim Biden (Joe's brother) he was concerned about some of the things they were doing. In reply Jim smirked and commented about "plausible deniability". Tony also took all his evidence to the FBI but they also suppressed the story. Whatever you think of this story, there is certainly enough evidence to justify further investigation and hopefully this will happen next year.