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I'm honestly puzzled why? How many billions animal slaughtered daily just to satisfy human consumption?

• ElijahLynn 4y ago
  This.
• madrox 4y ago
  Consuming a steak is quite easy because there is a mental disconnect between this abstract red shape called a new york strip and the thinking, feeling animal it came from. When I was younger, the disassociation was so great it didn't occur to me except in an abstract sense. Also, while these environments can be cruel to animals, it's hard to be more cruel than nature. Now that I'm older, though, disassociating is harder. It's hard for me to look at meat without thinking about the animal it came from. If I were forced to kill and butcher animals myself in order to eat meat, I know I could not do it in good conscience. Ergo, if I cannot do it in good conscience, I find it difficult to see how anyone else can.
  • spoils19 4y ago
  • zztop44 4y ago
    > it’s hard to be more cruel than nature Obviously “nature” is a difficult concept to pin down, but I disagree with this sentiment. I think probably most factory farming (especially of chickens and pigs) is waaaay more cruel than nature (whatever that means)
    • thejackgoode 4y ago
      One of two competing definitions of “Nature” in this context is a phantasy of how it would be without humans around. Other one is that we’re part of it. Likely it’s somewhere in between.
• iancmceachern 4y ago
  You are missing the point. The point is that we have a system that yes, harvests those animals for food. But we have an agreement in society that our goal is to harvest those animals without unnecessary cruelty. If some rancher were torchering their animals while ranching they would go to jail. Its not that neuralink did monkey experiments, every medical device company does those all day, there are entire facilities dedicated to doing so with populations of hundreds or thousands of animals. The issue of that neuralink tortured those animals, did shoddy half baked work and therefore caused undue suffering to them. It's like cadaver work, it's a necessity for our modern medicine. It's one thing for a student to do cadaver work to learn how to be a surgeon, respecting the sacrifice of the cadaver. It's another thing entirely to disrespect that cadaver, disrespect that sacrifice, that's illegal. That's what neuralink did, disrespected the sacrifice.
  • ElijahLynn 4y ago
    "But we have an agreement in society that our goal is to harvest those animals without unnecessary cruelty." This is not true. The agreement American society seems to have is "do whatever you need to do to keep the bacon on the shelves and make it cheap". What actually happens behind the walls of a slaughterhouse is an atrocity, the cruelty is unimaginable. I've watched it. Do a search for "factory farming undercover videos" and learn the truth behind mass factory farming. It is right there on the internet now and has been for nearly 20 years now. Multiple source, multiple films. So much. It is very traumatic to watch.
    • iancmceachern 4y ago
      Ok, fair point. But this has nothing to do with the article.