4 ms·

I'd expect that simply paying people would also improve rate of weight loss. If you buy and eat less processed food with higher levels of protein, fiber, and f

by throwaway22032 4y ago

I'd expect that simply paying people would also improve rate of weight loss. If you buy and eat less processed food with higher levels of protein, fiber, and fat, you're likely to manage your appetite far better than if you just smash loads of donuts and crisps. It's cheaper to eat nonfood though, particularly if you take preparation into account.

lm28469 4y ago
Obesity rate is completely uncorelated to poverty, in the US we're talking 40%+, 70%+ overweight It's not cheaper to eat junk food, it's just more convenient, I never spent so little on food than when I switched to vegetarian/bio, and I've never been so healthy in general. I very often make soup/stew that last 2-3 days for me and my gf for less than 15$
- aradox66 4y ago
  That doesn't seem right? https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6650a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6650a1.htm sounds like the general trend is obesity declines with income and education, although more strongly for some demographics and negligibly for others
  - djbebs 4y ago
    Obesity declining with income doesn't mean less calorically intense food is cheaper, it just means that higher income better educated people eat less calories.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - j33zusjuice 4y ago
      That still creates a correlation between income and obesity.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- brailsafe 4y ago
  So you just eat stew constantly all the time and that means junkfood isn't cheaper? I have to imagine it only lasts 2-3 days because you're just having a bowl each or something. If you and her ate just that, you'd still be spending $120/month on just stew and probably undereating by a good amount, and also regretting full commitment to stew. You may still be right but it's a narrow example that sort of entirely depends on the season and region. What's cheaper? Canned stew. 3 days on canned stew and in the U.S it's probably less and way faster. Add in $3 worth of fried chicken from Walmart and that's a day's worth of food, and a fuck ton of salt. I don't think it's really an argument that holds up, but I would agree that it's a way better use of money to get good stuff if you can afford it and spend the time making it. I'm not where you are but a small bag (5lb) of potatoes at Safeway costs $6, add in something like 5 apples and you're already at $15. Bag of frozen fruit, another $6. It adds up quickly and goes away even quicker.
jolmg 4y ago
Around me I think on average a single cheap donut costs about the same as a couple pounds of carrots.
- out-of-ideas 4y ago
  lol i'd like you to eat 2 lbs of donuts one day for a single meal, wait a week, then eat 2 lbs of carrots for one meal .. and report back to here how you felt
  - jolmg 4y ago
    I don't get the point of comparing the same quantities, nor of putting them in a single meal. It's an example. The price comparison holds for other forms of junkfood and veggies. And the other point is that 2lbs of carrots are going to last me more than a single donut, for the same price.
- throwaway22032 4y ago
  I agree wholeheartedly that cooking healthy food is less expensive than buying ready made crap. The like-for-like example is high quality takeaway food vs cheap takeaway food, or high quality snacks (e.g. a premade chicken sandwich) vs nonsense like donuts.
  - jolmg 4y ago
    > The like-for-like example is [...] I mean, you did say > It's cheaper to eat nonfood though, particularly if you take preparation into account. So I took it as saying nonfood already comes prepared, while real food generally doesn't. IOW, comparing cooking healthy vs buying ready-made crap. But ok, I guess you're saying, ignoring the possibility of cooking oneself, healthy food is more expensive than junkfood. I agree with that. Kind of feels weird to act like people can't cook or prepare their own food from cheap ingredients, but I guess homeless people, for example, can't really.
    - throwaway22032 4y ago

lm28469 4y ago

Obesity rate is completely uncorelated to poverty, in the US we're talking 40%+, 70%+ overweight It's not cheaper to eat junk food, it's just more convenient, I never spent so little on food than when I switched to vegetarian/bio, and I've never been so healthy in general. I very often make soup/stew that last 2-3 days for me and my gf for less than 15$

aradox66 4y ago
That doesn't seem right? https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6650a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6650a1.htm sounds like the general trend is obesity declines with income and education, although more strongly for some demographics and negligibly for others
- djbebs 4y ago
  Obesity declining with income doesn't mean less calorically intense food is cheaper, it just means that higher income better educated people eat less calories.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - j33zusjuice 4y ago
    That still creates a correlation between income and obesity.
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
brailsafe 4y ago
So you just eat stew constantly all the time and that means junkfood isn't cheaper? I have to imagine it only lasts 2-3 days because you're just having a bowl each or something. If you and her ate just that, you'd still be spending $120/month on just stew and probably undereating by a good amount, and also regretting full commitment to stew. You may still be right but it's a narrow example that sort of entirely depends on the season and region. What's cheaper? Canned stew. 3 days on canned stew and in the U.S it's probably less and way faster. Add in $3 worth of fried chicken from Walmart and that's a day's worth of food, and a fuck ton of salt. I don't think it's really an argument that holds up, but I would agree that it's a way better use of money to get good stuff if you can afford it and spend the time making it. I'm not where you are but a small bag (5lb) of potatoes at Safeway costs $6, add in something like 5 apples and you're already at $15. Bag of frozen fruit, another $6. It adds up quickly and goes away even quicker.

jolmg 4y ago

Around me I think on average a single cheap donut costs about the same as a couple pounds of carrots.

out-of-ideas 4y ago
lol i'd like you to eat 2 lbs of donuts one day for a single meal, wait a week, then eat 2 lbs of carrots for one meal .. and report back to here how you felt
- jolmg 4y ago
  I don't get the point of comparing the same quantities, nor of putting them in a single meal. It's an example. The price comparison holds for other forms of junkfood and veggies. And the other point is that 2lbs of carrots are going to last me more than a single donut, for the same price.
throwaway22032 4y ago
I agree wholeheartedly that cooking healthy food is less expensive than buying ready made crap. The like-for-like example is high quality takeaway food vs cheap takeaway food, or high quality snacks (e.g. a premade chicken sandwich) vs nonsense like donuts.
- jolmg 4y ago
  > The like-for-like example is [...] I mean, you did say > It's cheaper to eat nonfood though, particularly if you take preparation into account. So I took it as saying nonfood already comes prepared, while real food generally doesn't. IOW, comparing cooking healthy vs buying ready-made crap. But ok, I guess you're saying, ignoring the possibility of cooking oneself, healthy food is more expensive than junkfood. I agree with that. Kind of feels weird to act like people can't cook or prepare their own food from cheap ingredients, but I guess homeless people, for example, can't really.
  - throwaway22032 4y ago