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> Little UI design changes are NOT what you should be spending time/money on; they are a waste of effort given K9's already strong usability I'm going to go ou

by orra 4y ago

> Little UI design changes are NOT what you should be spending time/money on; they are a waste of effort given K9's already strong usability I'm going to go out on a limb and disagree. I left K-9 ages ago, because unfortunately for ages it had no Material Design. These upcoming changes are a modernisation. That's good for mass appeal. Mass users don't want an app which looks antiquated.

handedness 4y ago
On the other hand, I can't imagine leaving an app for that reason. As one who fairly loathes Material Design (especially on mobile), I was hoping cketti would fix what's wrong with Thunderbird, rather than Thunderbird ruining the best Android email client out there, which is now looking like an almost certainty. I really hope there's a good fork.
- awill 4y ago
  I'm neither for or against Material Design, but when I used Android, but MD was generally a good sign that the app was well supported, and the devs cared about UX. When I'd search for an app, the high quality apps were almost always MD. Maybe k9 was an exception, but I'm sure they lost potential users.
- vitorgrs 4y ago
  Design for me is one of main important on mobile platforms. If the design is bad, is basically a big no for me at least. I wouldn't be leaving because I wouldn't be installing in first place. I was using Outlook on Android, but I was finding it pretty heavy/slow. Looked for other alternatives, like K9 and Spark, and choose Spark exactly because of the UI/UX.
- rjzzleep 4y ago
  I get the feeling of wanting a thing you're used to keeping the same looks, but k9 definitely does not have a good user experience. I don't know if the new look will be that, but definitely needs a face lift.
climb_stealth 4y ago
For what it's worth I tried K9 in the past and ended up not using it because it was somewhat clunky and ugly. So here's one potential user who would welcome a more modern interface.
codethief 4y ago
> I left K-9 ages ago, because unfortunately for ages it had no Material Design. Maybe you should give it another shot – they changed the UI quite recently (a year ago?)
- orra 4y ago
  Thanks, I'm aware they relatively recently landed UI changes. However, for now I'm happy with FairEmail, which is likewise open source.
bayindirh 4y ago
> That's good for mass appeal. Mass users don't want an app which looks antiquated. That's pretty spot on. Another example is Eclipse. I swear by it, and it handles everything for me. But when I show it to someone the first question is when did it last updated, because it looks very old. Eclipse releases a new version every three months.

by orra 4y ago

handedness 4y ago

On the other hand, I can't imagine leaving an app for that reason. As one who fairly loathes Material Design (especially on mobile), I was hoping cketti would fix what's wrong with Thunderbird, rather than Thunderbird ruining the best Android email client out there, which is now looking like an almost certainty. I really hope there's a good fork.

awill 4y ago
I'm neither for or against Material Design, but when I used Android, but MD was generally a good sign that the app was well supported, and the devs cared about UX. When I'd search for an app, the high quality apps were almost always MD. Maybe k9 was an exception, but I'm sure they lost potential users.
vitorgrs 4y ago
Design for me is one of main important on mobile platforms. If the design is bad, is basically a big no for me at least. I wouldn't be leaving because I wouldn't be installing in first place. I was using Outlook on Android, but I was finding it pretty heavy/slow. Looked for other alternatives, like K9 and Spark, and choose Spark exactly because of the UI/UX.
rjzzleep 4y ago
I get the feeling of wanting a thing you're used to keeping the same looks, but k9 definitely does not have a good user experience. I don't know if the new look will be that, but definitely needs a face lift.

climb_stealth 4y ago

For what it's worth I tried K9 in the past and ended up not using it because it was somewhat clunky and ugly. So here's one potential user who would welcome a more modern interface.

codethief 4y ago

> I left K-9 ages ago, because unfortunately for ages it had no Material Design. Maybe you should give it another shot – they changed the UI quite recently (a year ago?)

orra 4y ago
Thanks, I'm aware they relatively recently landed UI changes. However, for now I'm happy with FairEmail, which is likewise open source.

bayindirh 4y ago

> That's good for mass appeal. Mass users don't want an app which looks antiquated. That's pretty spot on. Another example is Eclipse. I swear by it, and it handles everything for me. But when I show it to someone the first question is when did it last updated, because it looks very old. Eclipse releases a new version every three months.