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Living in the USA not having to carry an ID all the time is a breath of fresh air. Not having to call the cops to tell them I moved to that their records are up

Living in the USA not having to carry an ID all the time is a breath of fresh air. Not having to call the cops to tell them I moved to that their records are up to date and so that they can come to my place of residence to see whether I actually live there is a breath of fresh air. I don't want to government to know that much about me. It has been proven over and over that less is better.

outworlder 4y ago
> Not having to call the cops to tell them I moved to that their records are up to date and so that they can come to my place of residence to see whether I actually live there is a breath of fresh air. Eh. In most states you are required to get a new DL if you move. So, in fact, you have to tell the state where you live. Whereas with a national ID, that wouldn't be tied to a place of residence.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Whereas with a national ID, that wouldn’t be tied to a place of residence. Why would you assume that? our current substitute for a national ID (state issued ID compliant with the federal REAL ID Act) requires current address, and has higher standards for proof of address than many pre-REAL ID state IDs did.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    My passport and global entry card do not require a physical address. Just give me a US version of Estonia’s identity smart card and make it work with Login.gov.
  - everforward 4y ago
    Can't reply to toomuchtodo so dropping this here; your passport is tied to your address via your SSN which is tied to tax returns. They frankly probably know where you live better than the state you reside in. I know lots of people that haven't updated the address on their driver's license, but I don't know anyone that gives the IRS an incorrect address.
    - throwaway742 4y ago
      Not everyone files a tax return.
    - refurb 4y ago
      > your passport is tied to your address via your SSN which is tied to tax returns. Not really. I file my tax return and the address isn't where I live. It doesn't have to be, it's a mailing address.
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- throwaway742 4y ago
  If you just get a state ID card and not a DL there is no requirement to update your address.
- landemva 4y ago
  The State licenses I have seen have two blank lines on back upon which someone who gets a different address simply writes the new address.
sagarm 4y ago
Having a national ID and carrying it are two separate things. Many Americans already have a national ID (passport) and do not carry it. Conversely, the most common state ID (driver's license) is effectively mandatory to carry at all times for most Americans because it is required to drive a motor vehicle and driving a motor vehicle is required to move around outside of major urban areas.

outworlder 4y ago

> Not having to call the cops to tell them I moved to that their records are up to date and so that they can come to my place of residence to see whether I actually live there is a breath of fresh air. Eh. In most states you are required to get a new DL if you move. So, in fact, you have to tell the state where you live. Whereas with a national ID, that wouldn't be tied to a place of residence.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> Whereas with a national ID, that wouldn’t be tied to a place of residence. Why would you assume that? our current substitute for a national ID (state issued ID compliant with the federal REAL ID Act) requires current address, and has higher standards for proof of address than many pre-REAL ID state IDs did.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  My passport and global entry card do not require a physical address. Just give me a US version of Estonia’s identity smart card and make it work with Login.gov.
- everforward 4y ago
  Can't reply to toomuchtodo so dropping this here; your passport is tied to your address via your SSN which is tied to tax returns. They frankly probably know where you live better than the state you reside in. I know lots of people that haven't updated the address on their driver's license, but I don't know anyone that gives the IRS an incorrect address.
  - throwaway742 4y ago
    Not everyone files a tax return.
  - refurb 4y ago
    > your passport is tied to your address via your SSN which is tied to tax returns. Not really. I file my tax return and the address isn't where I live. It doesn't have to be, it's a mailing address.
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throwaway742 4y ago
If you just get a state ID card and not a DL there is no requirement to update your address.
landemva 4y ago
The State licenses I have seen have two blank lines on back upon which someone who gets a different address simply writes the new address.

sagarm 4y ago

Having a national ID and carrying it are two separate things. Many Americans already have a national ID (passport) and do not carry it. Conversely, the most common state ID (driver's license) is effectively mandatory to carry at all times for most Americans because it is required to drive a motor vehicle and driving a motor vehicle is required to move around outside of major urban areas.