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Fully 1/2 of these are fixes for things they have broken in the past 20 years... The dark mode support might actually be at the level of windows 3.1 now.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
You're moving the goalposts. He claimed Win 11 brings no fixes over Win 10, and I proved him wrong, not what features Microsoft removed over the years and brough back with Win 11. And what's wrong with them bringing back older features? You're making it sound like that's a bad thing. The point was that Win 11 is far more polished and feature compete than Windows 10, yet people somehow gloss over this and pretend that Win 10 is somehow better (it's not, it's really janky and backwards in comparison, just look at the settings menu and dark mode implementation). Win 11 really fixes many of Windows 10's shortcomings and jank.
- StillBored 4y ago
  The point is with the half dozen things they fixed, they broke another hundred things. From the broken in a different way control panel, to the lack of functional grouping in the start menu, it just keeps going. Its the same thing they did with win10, and why its not running on any of my personal hardware either.
  - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
    > From the broken in a different way control panel Broken how? Are you talking about the settings menu or the control panel? You can do everything from the settings menu now, why would you try digging up the control panel? Unless maybe you're a sys-admin maybe trying to do some corporate stuff. >the lack of functional grouping in the start menu Thee start menu grouping works fine for me. Have you actually used the latest release of Win 11, or are you commenting based on stuff you read on the internet? >they broke another hundred things Can you please name the 100 broken things? You named just two things which either aren't broken but more like you either haven't used or don't like how they are. But that's not the definition of broken.
    - StillBored 4y ago
      I have a win11 tablet, and a couple work test machines. None of them can group icons by functional usage, or if they do, its not obvious. If they have added it since I tried to do it some months ago, and simply didn't provide any visual hinting that it was possible in a newer version when I upgraded it. Then that itself is a failure. Just because I rant about how I don't allow it on personal devices doesn't mean I don't lay hands on it, on a regular basis. The first couple hits when i google it, remain links to 3rd party software enabling the function. Edit: Still not sure how to do it, went down the first half dozen links, which were to things like this: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/how-do-i-organize-my-apps-icon-in-the-windows-11/d7324804-8b61-4388-9198-5fadfa2f4742 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/how-do... and no answers. If it takes me half an hour to figure out how to do something that every single version of windows since windows 2.0 could do, then... fail. another edit: and to reply to some of the things you added after the fact. Type control panel into the search button on win11 pro/etc and notice all the stuff that remains there because it doesn't have similar functionality in the new control panel. Pretty frequently I find myself in that control panel because what I want to change can't be changed from the new control panel.
      - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
        >None of them can group icons by functional usage, I really have no idea what this means as that's never my workflow, but it could be a valid complaint. I just hit the start/meta key, type the 2-3 letters of my desired app/file, then hit enter. >Type control panel into the search button on win11 pro/etc and notice all the stuff that remains there because it doesn't have similar functionality in the new control panel. Like what? I consider myself a relative power user and haven't needed to touch the old control panel at all, at least for cases that cover 99% of windows use-cases, as for power user uses cases that aren't covered by the new settings menu, I usually go directly to the registry editor. Just because you find control panel results in the start menu search, doesn't mean you can't do those things in the new settings menu. >Pretty frequently I find myself in that control panel because what I want to change can't be changed from the new control panel. For example, what things?

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

You're moving the goalposts. He claimed Win 11 brings no fixes over Win 10, and I proved him wrong, not what features Microsoft removed over the years and brough back with Win 11. And what's wrong with them bringing back older features? You're making it sound like that's a bad thing. The point was that Win 11 is far more polished and feature compete than Windows 10, yet people somehow gloss over this and pretend that Win 10 is somehow better (it's not, it's really janky and backwards in comparison, just look at the settings menu and dark mode implementation). Win 11 really fixes many of Windows 10's shortcomings and jank.

StillBored 4y ago
The point is with the half dozen things they fixed, they broke another hundred things. From the broken in a different way control panel, to the lack of functional grouping in the start menu, it just keeps going. Its the same thing they did with win10, and why its not running on any of my personal hardware either.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  > From the broken in a different way control panel Broken how? Are you talking about the settings menu or the control panel? You can do everything from the settings menu now, why would you try digging up the control panel? Unless maybe you're a sys-admin maybe trying to do some corporate stuff. >the lack of functional grouping in the start menu Thee start menu grouping works fine for me. Have you actually used the latest release of Win 11, or are you commenting based on stuff you read on the internet? >they broke another hundred things Can you please name the 100 broken things? You named just two things which either aren't broken but more like you either haven't used or don't like how they are. But that's not the definition of broken.
  - StillBored 4y ago
    I have a win11 tablet, and a couple work test machines. None of them can group icons by functional usage, or if they do, its not obvious. If they have added it since I tried to do it some months ago, and simply didn't provide any visual hinting that it was possible in a newer version when I upgraded it. Then that itself is a failure. Just because I rant about how I don't allow it on personal devices doesn't mean I don't lay hands on it, on a regular basis. The first couple hits when i google it, remain links to 3rd party software enabling the function. Edit: Still not sure how to do it, went down the first half dozen links, which were to things like this: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/how-do-i-organize-my-apps-icon-in-the-windows-11/d7324804-8b61-4388-9198-5fadfa2f4742 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/all/how-do... and no answers. If it takes me half an hour to figure out how to do something that every single version of windows since windows 2.0 could do, then... fail. another edit: and to reply to some of the things you added after the fact. Type control panel into the search button on win11 pro/etc and notice all the stuff that remains there because it doesn't have similar functionality in the new control panel. Pretty frequently I find myself in that control panel because what I want to change can't be changed from the new control panel.
    - ChuckNorris89 4y ago
      >None of them can group icons by functional usage, I really have no idea what this means as that's never my workflow, but it could be a valid complaint. I just hit the start/meta key, type the 2-3 letters of my desired app/file, then hit enter. >Type control panel into the search button on win11 pro/etc and notice all the stuff that remains there because it doesn't have similar functionality in the new control panel. Like what? I consider myself a relative power user and haven't needed to touch the old control panel at all, at least for cases that cover 99% of windows use-cases, as for power user uses cases that aren't covered by the new settings menu, I usually go directly to the registry editor. Just because you find control panel results in the start menu search, doesn't mean you can't do those things in the new settings menu. >Pretty frequently I find myself in that control panel because what I want to change can't be changed from the new control panel. For example, what things?