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The obsession with thinner phones and undersized batteries to allow that was the real issue, in my opinion. Looking at a comparison list[1] the 6s has about hal

The obsession with thinner phones and undersized batteries to allow that was the real issue, in my opinion. Looking at a comparison list[1] the 6s has about half the battery capacity of the iPhone 13, and is the smallest battery of the entire iPhone lineup for its screen / face size. [1] https://www.knowyourmobile.com/user-guides/iphone-battery-sizes/ https://www.knowyourmobile.com/user-guides/iphone-battery-si...

rootusrootus 4y ago
I would say call that tangential. Properly functioning batteries that are undersized are a battery life problem. A malfunctioning battery that cannot deliver enough current for the CPU at full power is a different problem. It could be argued that the smaller battery would degrade faster due to more cycles, but I don't recall whether there was general dissatisfaction with battery life on the 6S or not. I expect the battery on the 13 to be bigger because I assume (with no research, admittedly) that the SOC and screen both take a good bit more power than the equivalents on a 6S.
- sn0wf1re 4y ago
  > Properly functioning batteries that are undersized are a battery life problem. A malfunctioning battery that cannot deliver enough current for the CPU at full power is a different problem. These are the same problem. Nominal voltage lowers as batteries age, as does the ability to maintain a voltage under load. The batteries were "fine" for the first year. A larger battery would have been able to keep voltage under load at an acceptable level even as it aged. > I expect the battery on the 13 to be bigger because I assume (with no research, admittedly) that the SOC and screen both take a good bit more power than the equivalents on a 6S. And yet the 6 had a larger battery (same screen size). Personally I find the 6S (and 6) to be very thin. They could have easily been a couple mm larger without the consumer noticing (Apple could have made the camera lens flush!).

rootusrootus 4y ago

I would say call that tangential. Properly functioning batteries that are undersized are a battery life problem. A malfunctioning battery that cannot deliver enough current for the CPU at full power is a different problem. It could be argued that the smaller battery would degrade faster due to more cycles, but I don't recall whether there was general dissatisfaction with battery life on the 6S or not. I expect the battery on the 13 to be bigger because I assume (with no research, admittedly) that the SOC and screen both take a good bit more power than the equivalents on a 6S.

sn0wf1re 4y ago
> Properly functioning batteries that are undersized are a battery life problem. A malfunctioning battery that cannot deliver enough current for the CPU at full power is a different problem. These are the same problem. Nominal voltage lowers as batteries age, as does the ability to maintain a voltage under load. The batteries were "fine" for the first year. A larger battery would have been able to keep voltage under load at an acceptable level even as it aged. > I expect the battery on the 13 to be bigger because I assume (with no research, admittedly) that the SOC and screen both take a good bit more power than the equivalents on a 6S. And yet the 6 had a larger battery (same screen size). Personally I find the 6S (and 6) to be very thin. They could have easily been a couple mm larger without the consumer noticing (Apple could have made the camera lens flush!).