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Alternative take: No-one likes being lied to. AI is the ultimate deception. People will stop using the internet for anything other than information retrieval f

by rcarr 4y ago

Alternative take: No-one likes being lied to. AI is the ultimate deception. People will stop using the internet for anything other than information retrieval for problems. Artists will create on digital tools and then return to analogue publishing formats and distribution networks. People will follow them because artists are cool and tech bros aren’t. There will be an emphasis on becoming a local success story rather than a global one. You can already see this happening some what. Vinyl records are increasing sales every year. People are getting tired of Spotify and are buying on bandcamp. Typewriters are growing in use. Digital book sales have stalled and people are buying paper books again. I think this will become a new social identifier, particularly for those on the left of the political spectrum.

lovehashbrowns 4y ago
The vast majority of people don't care. Netflix's recommendation algorithm helped take down physical video rental stores and TikTok's algorithm is taking out Instagram, Facebook, and even YouTube. Vinyl is particularly annoying to deal with. Even a small collection gets unwieldy quickly. I prefer physical books to ebooks but physical books are annoying to deal with, too. I've just given up on physical books for the most part. Typewriters are a joke; surely nobody believes they will come back to use in significant numbers. The real problem is that AI art will be faster to produce and be completely indistinguishable from human art. People for the most part prefer the path of least resistance.
- rcarr 4y ago
  People prefer the path of least resistance until the price becomes too high. When people realise they are obese, they generally try and lose weight. I strongly suspect that with the next wave of AI, more and more people are going to come to the conclusion that the price is too high. There is significant tech pushback already, I can only see that growing as it erodes even more people’s values and livelihoods.
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fleddr 4y ago
I'm all for nostalgia, retro gaming would be another example. But let's not kid ourselves that this makes a dent. Most art is utility. A logo, an illustration for a magazine, an asset to be used in a game. It's completely irrelevant how it was created.
- rcarr 4y ago
  I was using artist in the broad sense to include writers, musicians, filmmakers etc as well as traditional artists. I'd say traditional art is the least problematic as it is the most subjective. People won't be upset at an image you show them that was generated by AI. People won't be upset if you personify the AI and give it a backstory if they know that it's an AI. They will be upset if you tell them the image was made by a human and you give them a backstory about the artist and they later find out that all of that was complete bullshit. Not only will they be upset, they will no longer trust both those around them and themselves. If they no longer trust, they will become increasingly suspicious and fearful. And as Master Yoda said: 'Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. Anger leads to suffering."

by rcarr 4y ago

lovehashbrowns 4y ago

The vast majority of people don't care. Netflix's recommendation algorithm helped take down physical video rental stores and TikTok's algorithm is taking out Instagram, Facebook, and even YouTube. Vinyl is particularly annoying to deal with. Even a small collection gets unwieldy quickly. I prefer physical books to ebooks but physical books are annoying to deal with, too. I've just given up on physical books for the most part. Typewriters are a joke; surely nobody believes they will come back to use in significant numbers. The real problem is that AI art will be faster to produce and be completely indistinguishable from human art. People for the most part prefer the path of least resistance.

rcarr 4y ago
People prefer the path of least resistance until the price becomes too high. When people realise they are obese, they generally try and lose weight. I strongly suspect that with the next wave of AI, more and more people are going to come to the conclusion that the price is too high. There is significant tech pushback already, I can only see that growing as it erodes even more people’s values and livelihoods.
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fleddr 4y ago

I'm all for nostalgia, retro gaming would be another example. But let's not kid ourselves that this makes a dent. Most art is utility. A logo, an illustration for a magazine, an asset to be used in a game. It's completely irrelevant how it was created.

rcarr 4y ago
I was using artist in the broad sense to include writers, musicians, filmmakers etc as well as traditional artists. I'd say traditional art is the least problematic as it is the most subjective. People won't be upset at an image you show them that was generated by AI. People won't be upset if you personify the AI and give it a backstory if they know that it's an AI. They will be upset if you tell them the image was made by a human and you give them a backstory about the artist and they later find out that all of that was complete bullshit. Not only will they be upset, they will no longer trust both those around them and themselves. If they no longer trust, they will become increasingly suspicious and fearful. And as Master Yoda said: 'Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. Anger leads to suffering."