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Online chess and OTB chess are not the same. This is a mistake many people ITT are making. If they can prove that he cheated OTB (especially if they can prove h

Online chess and OTB chess are not the same. This is a mistake many people ITT are making. If they can prove that he cheated OTB (especially if they can prove he cheated during that now infamous game against Magnus Carlsen at the Sinquefield Cup, which is what set this whole thing off in the first place) then by all means he should be banned but until then let's put the pitchforks down.

rgoulter 4y ago
"Online chess", and "online chess for money" aren't the same either. I'd say the "for money"/not, vs "online"/not is a more significant factor. I mean, if someone shows they're willing to cheat for prize money in online games, I'd be surprised to hear that they'd have qualms about cheating for money in an OTB game.
alexb_ 4y ago
Why should people be set to a different competitive standard? Both are chess tournaments played for money with the expectation that everyone is playing fairly.
- kelipso 4y ago
  This is a very recent line of thinking that started last year or so when serious prize funds started happening online. Takes some time for this to disperse to everyone....if it merits it even. Definitely no FIDE rated ones but has there been a classical game played in an online tournament by GMs?
onepointsixC 4y ago
The fact that he cheated more than he previously confessed to puts enough doubt to black list him. Just about every other sport permanently disqualifies cheaters, I have no idea why Hans was allowed in spite of his own admissions plus his lies of omisson.
- kelipso 4y ago
  It's not a fact. Hans disputes this and chess.com who made the accusation provides no evidence. Even then, taking some rant he made while under the camera shouldn't be taken seriously enough to attack him like this.
  - jjnoakes 4y ago
    >> The fact that he cheated more than he previously confessed to > It's not a fact Didn't Hans confess to this too? How is it not a fact?
    - kelipso 4y ago
      No, he says chess.com is lying about the "he cheated more than he previously confessed to" part in his lawsuit.
TylerE 4y ago
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice... won't get fooled again?

rgoulter 4y ago

"Online chess", and "online chess for money" aren't the same either. I'd say the "for money"/not, vs "online"/not is a more significant factor. I mean, if someone shows they're willing to cheat for prize money in online games, I'd be surprised to hear that they'd have qualms about cheating for money in an OTB game.

alexb_ 4y ago

Why should people be set to a different competitive standard? Both are chess tournaments played for money with the expectation that everyone is playing fairly.

kelipso 4y ago
This is a very recent line of thinking that started last year or so when serious prize funds started happening online. Takes some time for this to disperse to everyone....if it merits it even. Definitely no FIDE rated ones but has there been a classical game played in an online tournament by GMs?

onepointsixC 4y ago

The fact that he cheated more than he previously confessed to puts enough doubt to black list him. Just about every other sport permanently disqualifies cheaters, I have no idea why Hans was allowed in spite of his own admissions plus his lies of omisson.

kelipso 4y ago
It's not a fact. Hans disputes this and chess.com who made the accusation provides no evidence. Even then, taking some rant he made while under the camera shouldn't be taken seriously enough to attack him like this.
- jjnoakes 4y ago
  >> The fact that he cheated more than he previously confessed to > It's not a fact Didn't Hans confess to this too? How is it not a fact?
  - kelipso 4y ago
    No, he says chess.com is lying about the "he cheated more than he previously confessed to" part in his lawsuit.

TylerE 4y ago

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice... won't get fooled again?