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If this were a test question, the response given would be marked wrong, likely with no partial credit awarded. It's that egregiously wrong, even if the attribut

If this were a test question, the response given would be marked wrong, likely with no partial credit awarded. It's that egregiously wrong, even if the attribution is perhaps understandable.

ahelwer 4y ago
Well thankfully I haven't been in school for over a decade at this point, so rarely (never?) encounter these hard-cutoff no-second-chances trivia situations. I operate in the real world, where continually making something that's not-quite-correct then refining it and fixing the errors is how basically everything is accomplished.
- roperj 4y ago
  > not-quite-correct then refining it and fixing the errors is how basically everything is accomplished. Not-quite-correct is a wordy misrepresentation when something is plainly incorrect. In many fields being confidently wrong is how you get fucked over hard. That ChatGPT will gleefully fabricate references like a schizophrenic is just more icing on this shit cake.
- jcranmer 4y ago
  > I operate in the real world, where continually making something that's not-quite-correct then refining it and fixing the errors is how basically everything is accomplished. This isn't really not-quite-correct; it's egregiously wrong in the central aspect of the thesis. Refining and fixing it requires understanding that, and how, it's wrong--and if you have that level of knowledge, why are you using a tool to write this kind of thing? It's not going to save you much time from actually writing the whole thing yourself.
appletrotter 4y ago
You can correct the bot. If you tell it that a fact it has wrong is wrong, you can get it to change its answer. Also, you can just make tweaks manually. Seems super useful to me as long as you understand the limitations. Trust it the right it amount - don't trust it too much, and you're golden.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  Not clear that context goes further than your individual conversation, in fact it almost certainly doesn't.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> If this were a test question, the response given would be marked wrong, likely with no partial credit awarded. Probably. So, don't use ChatGPT unsupervised to take tests.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  How can you use it anywhere? If you need to know enough about a subject to judge whether an answer it gives is correct why would you need it in the first place?
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    Endeavours in which someone getd benefits in throughput by working with less skilled collaborators whose work they supervise, review, and send back with comments for rework when it is flawed are...not uncommon.

If this were a test question, the response given would be marked wrong, likely with no partial credit awarded. It's that egregiously wrong, even if the attribution is perhaps understandable.

ahelwer 4y ago

Well thankfully I haven't been in school for over a decade at this point, so rarely (never?) encounter these hard-cutoff no-second-chances trivia situations. I operate in the real world, where continually making something that's not-quite-correct then refining it and fixing the errors is how basically everything is accomplished.

roperj 4y ago
> not-quite-correct then refining it and fixing the errors is how basically everything is accomplished. Not-quite-correct is a wordy misrepresentation when something is plainly incorrect. In many fields being confidently wrong is how you get fucked over hard. That ChatGPT will gleefully fabricate references like a schizophrenic is just more icing on this shit cake.
jcranmer 4y ago
> I operate in the real world, where continually making something that's not-quite-correct then refining it and fixing the errors is how basically everything is accomplished. This isn't really not-quite-correct; it's egregiously wrong in the central aspect of the thesis. Refining and fixing it requires understanding that, and how, it's wrong--and if you have that level of knowledge, why are you using a tool to write this kind of thing? It's not going to save you much time from actually writing the whole thing yourself.

appletrotter 4y ago

You can correct the bot. If you tell it that a fact it has wrong is wrong, you can get it to change its answer. Also, you can just make tweaks manually. Seems super useful to me as long as you understand the limitations. Trust it the right it amount - don't trust it too much, and you're golden.

adamsmith143 4y ago
Not clear that context goes further than your individual conversation, in fact it almost certainly doesn't.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> If this were a test question, the response given would be marked wrong, likely with no partial credit awarded. Probably. So, don't use ChatGPT unsupervised to take tests.

adamsmith143 4y ago
How can you use it anywhere? If you need to know enough about a subject to judge whether an answer it gives is correct why would you need it in the first place?
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  Endeavours in which someone getd benefits in throughput by working with less skilled collaborators whose work they supervise, review, and send back with comments for rework when it is flawed are...not uncommon.