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That's honestly one of the best comments in this entire thread. Instead of veering predictably into philosophy or anecdote, it provides concrete and feasible st

That's honestly one of the best comments in this entire thread. Instead of veering predictably into philosophy or anecdote, it provides concrete and feasible steps toward improvement. No better way to make the point that "AI generated" is not the problem and "garbage" is.

Nathanba 4y ago
I find the AI competition to be yet another powerful reminder that all that matters are results. I can't count how much time I've spent being angry at people in my life, even though I always knew that it was stupid. Angry at bad docs, bad programmers, bad decisions, their inability to think or understand or care or feel. Now the AI removes it all. The AI generates truth out of thin air faster than any human can invent a lie about it. The AI simply generates good docs from bad docs, all the anger was always irrelevant. People were never going to become better, once again technology simply creates a world where people are automatically better by the mere fact that life is so much easier that the humans have no justification anymore to lie and cheat and pretend that the docs were actually always good and how I'm the problem. Nope, the AI just fixes it immediately and the human can remain lazy and ignorant, never the wiser that he actually failed at his job. I think it will be wonderful, no longer will we have to argue with e.g c++ programmers about whether their language is bad. The AI will make it instantly obvious that you won't want to risk programming in this nonsense. No longer will we have to debate people on whether some political issue is right or wrong. The AI will generate so many truths out of thin air that it counters the DDOS of bad people's lies faster than they can spin lies. Once again technology is going to save us from human nature, humans are allowed to remain silently bad. And the best part: Bad people are usually lazy, they will trust the AI far more than they ever trust other bad people or themselves. They will simply start blindly trusting the AI, which is better than what we have now: Them inventing their own lies and trusting themselves.
- practice9 4y ago
  It will remove a large amount of stress from people's lives for sure. When an AI model can explain the non-obvious bug in the code written by the developer who left the company 2 years ago - that's quite powerful. Saves more time for other stuff Though at some point it may create new sources of stress (like much discussed job security when the other job candidate is the AI model)
  - visarga 4y ago
    A company firing its human experts in favour of AI is a bad sign, probably going to fail. If business was good they would hire additional humans and use more AI. The purpose of a company is not to reduce salary costs, but to increase profits.
EamonnMR 4y ago
In this case though, it's not a solution at all. The question isn't how producers of garbage produce less garbage, it's how consumers of content can avoid being inundated by garbage. We may well ask 'please don't produce less garbage' and the producers have given us a resounding 'no.'
- visarga 4y ago
  Fight fire with fire. Local language model doing question answering takes search and web garbage in, outputs polite and helpful responses without ads and tracking. But let's take this idea one step further. We could also have a neural index. There are a few promising papers.
practice9 4y ago
An important threshold will be when an important physics, math or biology problem is going to be solved with one of these AIs, or by a scientist who uses AI for "ghostwriting". If scientists will verify the solution and find it to be correct, the mainstream sentiment about "garbage" will change very quickly. Maybe except various neo-luddites who will find different reasons to hate these models

Nathanba 4y ago

I find the AI competition to be yet another powerful reminder that all that matters are results. I can't count how much time I've spent being angry at people in my life, even though I always knew that it was stupid. Angry at bad docs, bad programmers, bad decisions, their inability to think or understand or care or feel. Now the AI removes it all. The AI generates truth out of thin air faster than any human can invent a lie about it. The AI simply generates good docs from bad docs, all the anger was always irrelevant. People were never going to become better, once again technology simply creates a world where people are automatically better by the mere fact that life is so much easier that the humans have no justification anymore to lie and cheat and pretend that the docs were actually always good and how I'm the problem. Nope, the AI just fixes it immediately and the human can remain lazy and ignorant, never the wiser that he actually failed at his job. I think it will be wonderful, no longer will we have to argue with e.g c++ programmers about whether their language is bad. The AI will make it instantly obvious that you won't want to risk programming in this nonsense. No longer will we have to debate people on whether some political issue is right or wrong. The AI will generate so many truths out of thin air that it counters the DDOS of bad people's lies faster than they can spin lies. Once again technology is going to save us from human nature, humans are allowed to remain silently bad. And the best part: Bad people are usually lazy, they will trust the AI far more than they ever trust other bad people or themselves. They will simply start blindly trusting the AI, which is better than what we have now: Them inventing their own lies and trusting themselves.

practice9 4y ago
It will remove a large amount of stress from people's lives for sure. When an AI model can explain the non-obvious bug in the code written by the developer who left the company 2 years ago - that's quite powerful. Saves more time for other stuff Though at some point it may create new sources of stress (like much discussed job security when the other job candidate is the AI model)
- visarga 4y ago
  A company firing its human experts in favour of AI is a bad sign, probably going to fail. If business was good they would hire additional humans and use more AI. The purpose of a company is not to reduce salary costs, but to increase profits.

EamonnMR 4y ago

In this case though, it's not a solution at all. The question isn't how producers of garbage produce less garbage, it's how consumers of content can avoid being inundated by garbage. We may well ask 'please don't produce less garbage' and the producers have given us a resounding 'no.'

visarga 4y ago
Fight fire with fire. Local language model doing question answering takes search and web garbage in, outputs polite and helpful responses without ads and tracking. But let's take this idea one step further. We could also have a neural index. There are a few promising papers.

practice9 4y ago

An important threshold will be when an important physics, math or biology problem is going to be solved with one of these AIs, or by a scientist who uses AI for "ghostwriting". If scientists will verify the solution and find it to be correct, the mainstream sentiment about "garbage" will change very quickly. Maybe except various neo-luddites who will find different reasons to hate these models