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I don't have evidence to support this, but I have a feeling the TSA and/or other government agencies like the CIA have been face scanning for years. Now they're

I don't have evidence to support this, but I have a feeling the TSA and/or other government agencies like the CIA have been face scanning for years. Now they're just announcing the program to normalize it.

spicymaki 4y ago
Yeah I figured they were scanning faces already.
lilsoso 4y ago
Airports already deploy facial recognition. The Global Entry program scans your face upon arrival. And sometimes flights scan your face as a boarding pass for entry.
- Terretta 4y ago
  Global Entry is reasonable: 1. Border crossing rules 2. Photo ID with an ID indexed to a background checked record as one of the rules 3. YOU are the one crossing the border, already declared and known, so there is no new information for authorities By contrast, driving, taking a bus or train, or flying A to B domestically, an ID check feels like incremental "papers please".
  - sithadmin 4y ago
    CBP already has facial recognition and gait recognition running in general public spaces at quite a few major US international air traffic hubs. My spouse (who works in the export compliance space) was given a capabilities demo one day while meeting with CBP officials at our local international airport, which included tracking individuals of interest from first appearance on airport cameras to their departure down the jetway.
    - toomuchtodo 4y ago
      A friend worked on this project at a major Midwest airport. These capabilities have been available since mid to late 00s.
- throwawayacc3 4y ago
  Yes, but that's an opt-in program. I think the federal government has been face scanning and identifying people passively without consent at and before security for quite some time at this rate.
  - lilsoso 4y ago
    It's not always opt-in or part of Global Entry, for a number of flights that I've been on there is a facial scanner check in lieu of a boarding pass check, despite being issued a boarding pass, to board the plane for all passengers. I cannot recall if this was only for international flights. Also, I believe I've seen this in Mexico, again, outside of Global Entry.

spicymaki 4y ago

Yeah I figured they were scanning faces already.

lilsoso 4y ago

Airports already deploy facial recognition. The Global Entry program scans your face upon arrival. And sometimes flights scan your face as a boarding pass for entry.

Terretta 4y ago
Global Entry is reasonable: 1. Border crossing rules 2. Photo ID with an ID indexed to a background checked record as one of the rules 3. YOU are the one crossing the border, already declared and known, so there is no new information for authorities By contrast, driving, taking a bus or train, or flying A to B domestically, an ID check feels like incremental "papers please".
- sithadmin 4y ago
  CBP already has facial recognition and gait recognition running in general public spaces at quite a few major US international air traffic hubs. My spouse (who works in the export compliance space) was given a capabilities demo one day while meeting with CBP officials at our local international airport, which included tracking individuals of interest from first appearance on airport cameras to their departure down the jetway.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    A friend worked on this project at a major Midwest airport. These capabilities have been available since mid to late 00s.
throwawayacc3 4y ago
Yes, but that's an opt-in program. I think the federal government has been face scanning and identifying people passively without consent at and before security for quite some time at this rate.
- lilsoso 4y ago
  It's not always opt-in or part of Global Entry, for a number of flights that I've been on there is a facial scanner check in lieu of a boarding pass check, despite being issued a boarding pass, to board the plane for all passengers. I cannot recall if this was only for international flights. Also, I believe I've seen this in Mexico, again, outside of Global Entry.