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Won’t help. This will be used at scale THIS YEAR and every subsequent year to infiltrate social networks including this one and amass points / karma / follower
by EGreg 4y ago
Won’t help.
This will be used at scale THIS YEAR and every subsequent year to infiltrate social networks including this one and amass points / karma / followers / clout. And also to write articles that will eventually dwarf all human-generated content.
With this and deepfakes and image/video generation, the age of trusting or caring about internet content or your friends sharing online is coming to an end. But it will be a painful 10 years as online mobs and outrage will happen over and over since people think they’re reacting to their friends’ posts of real things.
No, forget violent killbots. Today’s tech puts the nail in the coffin of human societal organization and systems of decision making and politics over the next 10 years. And AI doesn’t have to be right about stuff to destroy our systems.
We’ve been analyzing the performance of ONE agent among say 9 humans at a poker table. But imagine untold swarms of them, being owned by competing groups, infiltrating ALL human content exchange.
Not much different than what happened in trading firms over the last 20 years. Bots will be WELCOMED because they perform better on many metrics but will F everyone on the others.
They will do reputational attacks at scale against rivals like nytimes.org and optimize for more reshares.
Right now we consider what 1 AI actor can do among 9 humans at a poker table. Now imagine 1000-1 ratio of AI actors to humans on every network. And no way to weed them out.
The way we consume most online content isnt even a Turing test but passive skimming - and GPT-4 can pass turing tests. None of your friends will really be able to tell that bullshit fake article with fake video was autogenerated by a bot. The botswarm will be able to manufacture any public opinion it wants overnight and “authoritative” voices arguing against it will be drowned out — or worse, reputationally attacked in a coordinated manner. This is assuming that they even know what is real anymore themselves!!
Human capital and content will be managed completely by AI and regulation will be useless — not only because enforcement won’t be feasible but because the network effect of all the human content and capital will gradually shrink. Every organization will start to PREFER bots to humans, in their communities, and any humans who complain will evenutually be booted or ignored by the majority (which will eventually be 99.99999% bots).
If you think this is far fetched — it already happened with trading and markets. Everyone prefers to have a bot and bot trading dwarfs human trading, and takes their money and capital. Content generation isn’t that different.
You think your social capital matters enough for your friends to care more about your relationship than bots… but ask yourself this… do you prefer to ask Google than your parents? Do you prefer to spend long hours at a corporation that you could be spending with your kids and do you put your elderly parents in nursing homes so you can work more? These are just examples.
That’s with TODAY’s tech. Now, already. Nothing more needed except swarming behavior. And the key is that the communities will begin to PREFER the bots !
Also, there is no way to stop it because organizations prefer AI to humans and will develop and deploy it regardless of what you say or do. Organizations aren’t humans, and neither is AI. Humans are literally not stopping this, no matter how they organize. It’s GAME OVER for society.
PS: After such a sobering message, I would just like to say that trying to escape from this and live in enclaves without AI will be like the Unabomber — finding society ever more encroaching on the wilderness he removed himself into. He and Frank Herbert’s Dune have glimpsed the problem of advancing technology — but they have underestimated how all-pervasive its utter destruction of all human society and meaning will be. And unlike their romantic notions, it cannot be stopped, not by a revolution nor by any activity of man.
- bitL 4y agoWhat will be the societal management of this? Will every single human get issued a unique very long cryptographic ID and every single thing a human does will be recorded with this ID, stored on a blockchain to prevent tampering with it, preventing bots from obtaining valid IDs? Then any questions about the authorship of any media will be answered by a quick lookup, filtering out bots, killing privacy in turn? Will trusted search results be restricted to before the "botocalypse" and everything afterwards will be discarded?
- rdhyee 4y agoI looked at your profile and see your platform qbix. I'd love to hear how you've been adapting your projects to this AI seachange.
- EGreg 4y agoOur software is for communities of all kinds. Instead of outsourcing the verification to LinkedIn or Twitter, who fail at it, you can at least have smaller communities where you met everyone and have one degree of separation. But aw I said, organizations will PREFER robots.
- Nathanba 4y agoI agree that regulation will be useless because the politicians and most people wouldn't even be capable of detecting bad content as bad. I also agree with your second point: Humans will prefer robots. It turns out human beings are actually quite terrible to deal with. Constant scheming, laziness, lying, low intelligence.. the list goes on and on. The second you don't have to deal with a human being, you'll be glad. In any shop, factory or anywhere. But I don't agree that it's game over. This needs to be a turning point for humanity: Finally start using your time to actually do something other than exist to exist. Actually try to conquer the stars, actually do something. Don't just sit on a single rock in space and pretend that's good enough.
- jacomoRodriguez 4y agoOT: but personally I think we are not yet done destroying our planet and everything not human existing on it - so let's wait till we are done with this planet before we try to reach the next one to destroy